BLO(O)MFIELDs - Stoneham

[Yi Win]

Hi,

Re....

Yi what do you think of this, you have probably seen it before.... it gets confusing, Huh but mind I always wondered why Elizabeth English/Blomvile  never names her first born after her father especially as she is an heiress? none of the boys are named after her father William, I must say I find that curious.....    Shocked here's the link if you haven't seen it, no dates

BLOMEVILE Family
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~heatherk/i0000820.htm

I have this William as son of  Robert who was son of Gilbert and Elizabeth.

The link given has this William as son of Gilbert and Elizabeth.

Elizabeth and Gilbert may have had a son called William who died and is not recorded or is just not recorded!

The line's I have giving the sons are from property inheritence and Wills.

William inherited the house Mownes from his father Robert. Robert was Gilbert's son.

It is possible the link given has just skipped a generation.

Or maybe they are privey to info we dont have.

I'll forward the property document to you later today but if you look up my tree

http://amandahan.tribalpages.com/

you can follow the line we are talking about and read the source notes.

password is storm

(and yes I am openly giving it out on here knowing it will be read and the tree accessed - it is not a private tree so giving the password is ok)

catch you later
Yi

will look at other links later too - cheers!
 

[Yi Win]

Hi (again)!

Re....

just a mention, half way down.    http://www.roffe.co.uk/rolls.htm



This could possibly be William de Blomvyle of the Newton Flotman line

likewise I think this is the Newton Flotman line again...

just another little snippet;    http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=66681                           [about 8-9 chapters down]



brill!!! At least these 'snipets' confirm we have the right guys in the right timelines!

The more things that all add up the better.
Yi

[Yi Win]

there is another line down OTHER than the Newton Flotman line....

Davy's MSS

Richard de blomville
of Bulcamp in Henham
time R1 1189-1199 (death dates)

H de Blomville
Hen de Blomville 1E1 = 1272-1273 (died)
H de Blomville 25E1 = 1296-1297
John de Blomville 33E1 = 1304-1305
Henry de Gundesburgh 2E3 of Wetunhale (Wigenhale) 25 JAn 1328-1329
5E3 = 1331 = 1332
R de Blonville 1345-1349
John De Blonville


we could be a branch off either!

[youngtug]

I was writing this out to make it easier to understand than the original, then I lost the page  , so at the moment it is all I have until I find the site again. ;  Newton Hall. The manor of Blundevilles.

• William de Blundeville [Blomevyle or Blummel]
• Richard [son] lord in 1226. [nephew of Thomas Blumville, bishop of Norwich
  • William Blumvyle
  • succeeded by his widow Katherine
  William
  • in 1388 Richard Blumvyle held the manor
  • and in 1420 William Blumvyle esq,
  Richard Blomevyle esq,
  • suceeded by Catherine his wife
  • Richard, their son who died in 1503
    • succeeded by Ralph, his brother who died in 1514
    • Edward, his son. died in 1568
    Thomas, his son, held a court baron & lete in 1569
  sorry, no more, a little jumbled, but I was copying the descendancy. Will look for it again when I can.

[Yi Win]

Hi,

I have these additions which may fill in some gaps and be handy......


Newton Hall. The manor of Blundevilles.

    * William de Blundeville c1121

Held: Serdeleshey, Little Colne: (gifted) Blundeville Manor, Newton Flotman: Blomevile's Manor, Deopham, Manor of Blomviles (Woodcroft Hall) and Monk Soham (from wife)


    * Richard c1160  [son] lord in 1226.
[nephew of Thomas Blumville, bishop of Norwich

Held: Blundeville's Manor Newton Flotman & Blomevile's Manor, Deopham

John   c1200

Held: Blundeville's Manor, Newton Flotmam, Blomvile's Manor Deopham, Aquired Chesfield 1248-55


        William Blumvyle c1274 succeeded by his widow Katherine

Held:    Blundeville's Manor, Newton Flotmam, Blomvile's Manor Deopham


      William c1266 (inherited on death of Elder brother Nicholas)

Held: Blundeville's Manor Newton Flotman, Blomville's Manor, Deopham: inherited from mother - Manors Brome & Blonorton in Norfolk

         Richard c 1300

Held: Rector Newton Flotman: Blundeville's Manor Newton Flotman & Blomevile's Manor, Deopham
- died no heirs, nephew inherited

         in 1388 Richard Blumvyle c 1343 held the manor

Held: Blundeville's Manor, Newton Flotman: Blomvile's Manor, Deopham
- died no heirs, nephew inherited

          o and in 1420 William Blumvyle esq, c1380

Held: William   1380   Blundeville's Manor, Newton Flotman: Blomvile's Manor, Deopham: Swainsthorpe Hall (settled on William Preston by fine)


      Richard Blomevyle esq, c1404
          o suceeded by Catherine his wife

Held: Lived Ashby Manor: Blundeville's Manor, Newton Flotman: Blomvile's Manor, Deopham: obtained Manors of Ashby & Gunton, Norfolk from wife: Hempnall Manor by Advowson

          o Richard, c1470 their son who died in 1503

Held: Blundeville's Manor, Newton Flotman: Blomvile's Manor, Deopham (sold on his death to Roger Woodhouse): Ashby & Gunton Manors, Norfolk: Hempnall Manor: obtained Haveringland Manor - died no heirs

                + succeeded by Ralph, c1470  his brother who died in 1514

Held: Blundeville's Manor, Newton Flotman: Blomvile's Manor, Deopham : Ashby & Gunton Manors, Norfolk (sold on his death to Edward Jernegan): Haveringland Manor: obtained Manor of Gurney from wife: obtained Hopton Manor


               Edward, c 1495 his son. died in 1568

Held: Blundeville's Manor, Newton Flotman: Ashby & Gunton Manors, Norfolk: Haveringland Manor (sold by Edward in 1546): Hopton Manor

            Thomas, his son, c1522 held a court baron & lete in 1569

Held: Blundeville's Manor, Newton Flotman
(sold on his death by his daughters who were co-heiresses)
The Longs possessed the Manor until 1937 - it appears the Manor is now flats

[Lady Grace]

From 'Blomfield a Suffolk Family'
the Blomfields were distributed all over the south-east part of Suffolk, these Familes all bore the same arms..  re Tanner MSS  The Blomfields of Stonham Parva & Stonham Aspall were recognized as the heads of the Blomfield Family re Heralds Visitations of 1664....In the BDM Stonham Parva for 1542-1872 there are 156 entries for Blomfields..... .
In a sermon preached in Little Stonham Church 1681 a mention was made of " Mr Thomas Blomfield from the ancient seat of Foure Elmes  in Little Stonham, which gone in the name of ye family with little variation since the time of the Conquise..... interesting 

[Lady Grace]

For anyone thats interested....Swan Rolls, it is also interesting to know that only certain families were entitled to own and mark their swans on the beak with the Familys coat of arms, swans at one time were only  kept by royality..
3  registered  swan rolls have been found in regard to the families of Blomevile, Blomevyle,Blondevyll, the rolls are from the 16th century, they are all taken from the Blomvyle/Blomfield coat of arms, bearing 4 circles and a chevron......

[Yi Win]

Lady Grce,

A mind of wonderful information!

I did know about the Swan rolls but NOT what 'ours' was - thanks.

My branch of the Blomfield family is from this Thomas you mentioned as it is the Four Elms branch - Four Elms being the house of the younger son of the Mowness branch which the elder brother inherited.

;-)
Yi

[Lady Grace]

Hi Yi have we got anything on Robert Blomvyle  1470? was he @  Stonham Parva? hes the eldest [/ son going by our charts,  brother of John Blomvyle1487/88  Bury St Edmunds, and brother of your Thomas 1475.. ...hes mentioned  a few times in various archives, but who was his wife?