Cameron/Levy/Marks - birth Query

[Lucy2]

I have also had a look at the HYDE families.

There were about 12 children in that family - their father being John HYDE (b:1800) and mother Mary ARBON. (They married 13/07/1829) - Buckdon. (I found them on the IGI)

So looking at this HYDE family on the IGI (submitted entry) - the children of John and Mary - the names and ages stack up with those shown on the 1851 census.  (I only managed to find 10 children though and two had died before 1851).

HOWEVER  ... there was one child on the IGI list  ... who didn't appear in the 1851 census (nor in 1861) with her parents John and Mary ...  AND  ... her name is Maria HYDE !    (Baptised in 1835).

Hell, I don't want to sound like a poet   ... but was George COULDREY's bride, named Maria HYDE

(If so, then that would explain the inclusion of the ARBON name in the (NZ) COULDREY family.   Herbert Arbon whom we suspect is the son of George and Maria).

M/I from All Souls (Anglican) Cemetery, Clevedon :

COULDREY  -  Row 7 - # 41

Maria beloved wife of George COULDREY died 2 May 1910 aged 76 years.    Also her beloved husband George COULDREY died 28 July 1916, aged 81 years :

(So Maria COULDREY born circa 1834.)

And hopefully George COULDREY's d/c will confirm his wife's maiden name ??   

Lu

[lozzab]

Hi LU!!!

I got the death certificate's in the mail this afternoon!  You are sooo right!  George COULDREY'S death certificate gives his wife's name as...........(drumroll)....Maria HYDE!!
They married in Buckden when he was 29 years. 

The certificate states  4 male children living - ages 50,47,42,40 and two females 49 and 45 yrs. 

I also got ThomasCharles HYDE's death certificate (in the same envelope this time!) Eliza's maiden name is again hard to read  - it alomost looks like "Dawkes" this time.  It says he had 10 children living - 5 males, 43,42,39,28 and 25 (the 25 y.o. would Edgar) and 5 females 55,33,31,29 and 29 (the twin girls in the birth announcement).

I do wish they would list the children's names as they do in the Australian certificates.

Thanks LU!

Loz

[Eyesee]

Submitted entry on IGI

Maria HYDE, baptised 26 Apr 1835, Buckden, Hunts, parents John HYDE and Mary ARBON.

FreeBMD
Maria HYDE marriage Jun qtr 1863, St Neots, 3b 455 - image clearly says 455
George COULDREY marriage Jun qtr 1863, St Neots, 3b 453 - image says 455 to me.

Ian C

[Eyesee]

Eliza who married Charles HYDE, her surname was DORKES according to image.

Mary ARBON married John HYDE, 13 Jul 1829, Hemingford Abbots, Huntingdon - submitted entry on IGI.

Ian C

[trish1120]

WHA HOO

I have been following this with great interest and you have all done an amazing job. Give yourselves a pat on the back

trish

[lozzab]

Thanks Ian for your help too!!

Trish - I agree, this is great.  Lu has been a fantastic help in figuring out the Edgar Hyde/Ernest Cameron mystery and thanks to all the contributors for the info that has followed since!  It is very satisfying breaking through this "brick wall".

Loz

[Lucy2]

I also got Thomas HYDE's death certificate (in the same envelope this time!) Eliza's maiden name is again hard to read  - it alomost looks like "Dawkes" this time.  It says he had 10 children living - 5 males, 43,42,39,28 and 25 (the 25 y.o. would Edgar) and 5 females 55,33,31,29 and 29 (the twin girls in the birth announcement).

I do wish they would list the children's names as they do in the Australian certificates.

Oooh   .... you did mean Charles HYDE (rather than Thomas) ....  didn't you Loz ??        

[Looks like NZ BMD have smartened up their act, too ?   That's good news.]   

The female "aged 55" (living issue)  ... bit odd ?    I think that should probably have been "45"  ... what do you think ?

AND  ... it looks like there was another New Zealand-born son (between the births of the twins and Edgar)?    There are two possibles - an "Alfred" and a "Harry" - I'll take a look at the Birth index to see if either were born around Auckland area.

So it would be interesting now to see if "Edgar" shows up as "living issue" on Eliza's (1931) death cert.  ?   

Lu

[lozzab]

Ooopps - I DID mean CHARLES HYDE ! Sorry  - I had about 5 secs to post the other day and I still haven't had a chance to go back and marry up the children. (maybe tonight I'll have a proper look? )

Have to fly off now....

Loz

[Lucy2]

http://nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/name-425849.html

Photo of  ... and article on ... Thomas HYDE - brother MR. C. HYDE mentioned.   

Click on >>  "Clevedon" link (above the photo)  ... there is also an article (and photo) re:  William John HYDE. 

[The daughter of Thomas HYDE (by second wife Ellen BLUCK), was Jessie Elizabeth HYDE (m. 1896 Arthur Mant PERRY.]

Lu