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Re: Cameron/Levy/Marks - birth Query
« Reply #108 on: Tuesday 19 May 09 11:57 BST (UK) »
1787 Jan 30, Thomas, s/o Robert COULDREY begotten of the body of Elizabeth BRICE - in other words born out of wedlock.

Think they probably got married but can't find it, not in Abingdon

1792 Aug 24, Mary d/o Robert/Elizabeth
1800 William
1803 Aug 4, Susanna, d/o Robert/Elizabeth

Previous generation
1762 Aug 8, Mary
1764 May 13, Robert - William's father, buried 1830
1766 Mar 9, William
1768 Sep 4, Richard
1769 Dec 10, John
All children of Robert and Elizabeth, who was a cordwainer.

Burials
1764 Dec 24, unnamed child of Robert, cordwainer
1767 Nov 1, unnamed son of Robert, cordwainer
1770 Jan 1, John, son of Robert, cordwainer
1771 Apr 30, unnamed son of Robert, cordwainer
1772 Apr 12, Elizabeth, wife of Robert, cordwainer
Lots of smallpox in the mid 1770s
1787 Feb 14, unnamed child of Robert, cordwainer, bastard
1801 May 7, Robert, son of Robert & Elizabeth, schoolmaster - not sure that this is one of yours.
1802 Mar 25, Robert, sen, Hospital - probably Robert the cordwainer
Smallpox again in 1809
No more of your line until 1820s as per earlier post

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Re: Cameron/Levy/Marks - birth Query
« Reply #109 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 23:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ian !
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Re: Cameron/Levy/Marks - birth Query
« Reply #110 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 10:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Lu !
I've been trying to unravel the Sutherland/Munro/George families intertwined with the Hyde/Couldrey families.  I'll try to explain what I've found  ???

Thomas Hyde married Mary Munro Sutherland (1870)

Mary's parents were Hector Sutherland and Jessie Ferguson and Mary had 4 sisters, Jessie, Margaret, Janet and Annie.

Margaret married - James GEORGE in 1855
Janet married - George Campbell MUNRO in 1858.

Now !
 - Margaret's son  - Hector Hugh GEORGE married Florence COULDREY (daughter of George COULDREY and Maria HYDE and Thomas HYDE's niece) in 1896.

 - Margaret's daughter  - Jessie Sutherland GEORGE (brother of Hector Hugh GEORGE) married William COULDREY (son of George COULDREY and Maria HYDE - and brother of Florence - and Thomas HYDE'S nephew) - in 1901.


- Janet's daughter - Jane Alexandrina MUNRO married George COULDREY jnr (son of George COULDREY and Maria HYDE and George jnr and Florence's brother and Thomas HYDE's nephew)

(Hector, Jessie and Jane were all Thomas Hyde's nephew/nieces by marriage also!!)

Nothing like keeping it in the family!!!


..........Annie SUTHERLAND married ..............con't next post!!!!!!!!
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Re: Cameron/Levy/Marks - birth Query
« Reply #111 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 10:33 BST (UK) »
......Annie SUTHERLAND married John CAMERON !!!!!! (YEAH !!  - at last a connection to the Cameron name!!)

John CAMERON was one of the Cameron's that came 1840 on Blenheim.  Was born in Scotland.
John and Annie married 1865 in New Zealand and had five children.

Even though Edgar HYDE/Ernest CAMERON was not a blood relation of John CAMERON - maybe considering how close these families seemed to be - Edgar may have been close/admired the CAMERON family and decided to call his first born Jack (derivative of John) Cameron after them??

Oh well - I suppose I'll never know -  but I'm now happy to find a "CAMERON" somewhere in the family!!!!

Again - Lu - thanks so much much for your fantastic help with all of this!! :)

Loz
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Re: Cameron/Levy/Marks - birth Query
« Reply #112 on: Thursday 28 May 09 02:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Loz    :)

Mmm  ... interesting, all those marriages.   But these families obviously didn't move much beyond the bounds of the little settlement they were living in.

The middle name of "MUNRO" attached to Mary SUTHERLAND / HYDE is a bit puzzling ?    Where did you find that ?     (She was shown as only MARY SUTHERLAND on the NZ marriage index  ... and as Mary HYDE on the death index).

[Incidentally, Mary appears to be the person buried as "Mary HYDE (29 years) 1871 - St Andrews (churchyard ?) Clevedon".   Source:  NZSG Burial Locator ].

Have you managed to find now, all the details for Edgar / Ernest's siblings ?

Lu

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Re: Cameron/Levy/Marks - birth Query
« Reply #113 on: Thursday 28 May 09 09:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Lu,
She was down on Mary Munro Sutherland on a couple of familytress I found on Ancestry.

Haven't made any progress on Edgar's siblings.

On the passenger list there was -

Frederick, james, Elizabeth, Anne, Harriett, Martha and Thomas.
Birth references were found on freebmd - for Fred, James, Elizabeth and Anne - and Harriett was born at sea.

Can't find any reference to the births of Martha or Thomas - From the death certificate of their father Charles HYDE - it appears Martha was no longer alive (but I haven't been able to find a marriage or death for her). From the death certificate - Thomas would have been born about 1863.

From the death certificate - there was another son born in about 1873.  NZ bmd - there is only one Hyde male born in this year - Arthur George.

I still haven't made any progress on the names of the female twins born in 1872.

I have checked the on-line indexes for Edgar's  siblings marriages and browsed "Papers Past" but can't confirm any marriages for them at all.   ???  They certainly didn't make the papers like their younger brother did !!


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Re: Cameron/Levy/Marks - birth Query
« Reply #114 on: Sunday 14 June 09 09:09 BST (UK) »
Loz,

The records are online in various Excel and PDF files. But I've already compiled them for you!

You've got a large family to research now.

Justin
Here are some of the known descendants of Lipman Levy and Hannah Jones (my 2X Gt Aunt)

And Hi!  cousin Loz,  from your 3C2R.

Spike.
Jonas/Jones - London Jewish
Simmons - London Jewish
Henderson, Cumberland, Northumberland and Durham
Hepple - Northumberland and Durham
Smart - Northumberland and Durham.
Graham - Cumberland.

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Re: Cameron/Levy/Marks - birth Query
« Reply #115 on: Sunday 14 June 09 18:34 BST (UK) »
Loz,

Doing a google search for 'Lezer Blaz' brings up this site, that I was unable to view from my office PC.

http://www.geocities.com/senojekips/Jones/GGchartGC.htm

It's questionable whether Peschia Bloz is related to Eliezer Lezer Blez/Blaz.

Justin
Hi Justin,

Do you have any connection to Lezer Blaz/Blez as he was my 3xGt Grandfather.

Cheers,
Spike.
Jonas/Jones - London Jewish
Simmons - London Jewish
Henderson, Cumberland, Northumberland and Durham
Hepple - Northumberland and Durham
Smart - Northumberland and Durham.
Graham - Cumberland.

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Re: Cameron/Levy/Marks - birth Query
« Reply #116 on: Monday 15 June 09 11:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Spike!!

Thanks for the info on the Levy/Jones'.  So you are a descendant on the Jones/Jonas side?

Loz
Rogers, Mason, Hawkes, Baldwin, Taboudeux, Lee, Steeden, Wilson, Armstrong, Battley, Johnstone, Dailey, Birmingham, Lancaster,Field, Rainford, Hill, Adams, Cassidy.