Parish Records - Kirkby Moorside - RUSSELL

[Jaunty]

Got it!  The birth date I have for Christopher Russell came from his grave marker in Houghton, Ontario.  The marker is partially buried, so it doesn't show on my photo of it, but the Ontario Genealogical Society transcribed it in 2005 and they recorded that the marker is inscribed with his precise age: "78 yrs, 3 mos, 16 days."  Counting back from his death date of Apr 10, 1872, we get Christmas Day of 1873!  Exactly what you got -- now I'm REALLY hoping you can tell me where you found those birth & christening dates. I will go to Houghton when the weather permits, with a shovel, and see this inscription for myself.

I think this will be the definite link I need.  With names & ages matching, and now a matching birth date, plus the echoed name of David's first child, I think I may lay claim to these folks with some justification.  Or could it still be all just coincidence?

[Jaunty]

Cancel my request -- I just found the IGI dates for Christopher Russell.

Thank you!!!  If not for your help I would never have found this birthdate link between the Yorkshire Christopher Russell and my Ontario man.  It seems to me that I now have a VERY STRONG connection, but would be very interested in what you think.  The missing children, David excepted, still bother me, but if they came via the US some may have stayed there.  The female children probably married and changed their names.  Some may have died.  David was the youngest, so it is perhaps not surprising that he remained with the parents.  I will continue to look.  I am VERY pleased about this. 

[madpants]

Yes, I think that's your Christopher 

If they came out via the US then you might find them on the Ellis Island website.  www.ellisisland.org

[Jaunty]

I will check Ellis Island.  Too bad there is no exact birthdate for Rebecca on IGI -- I could verify with what is on her marker.

Thanks again!  So good to have made the leap to the UK connection.

[madpants]

You were very lucky to find that the vicar had written birthdates in the register, it wasn't the norm.

You could try looking on http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch  it's a pilot site from family search and has a lot of US census info

[Jaunty]

The age in years, months & days is cut into the grave marker, literally written in stone.  They used to do that sometimes.  Yes, it was lucky.

Ellis Island records, I discovered, begin at 1892, so much too late for this family who came in 1843.

Thanks for the site tip -- will look.  I'd be happier if one of the other children would turn up  in Ontario, but I am satisfied that my Christopher & Rebecca are the folks from Kirkby Moorside.

[Jaunty]

Any chance you know the geography of Kirkby Moorside & Wath Juxta Ripon?  Are these places close to each other?  I tried to find Wath Juxta Ripon, Yorkshire, on a map but didn't have much luck.

[madpants]

If you go to Google maps and put in Wath, Ripon you will see that Wath is approx. 4.8 miles from Ripon, Juxta just means near.  The juxta Ripon was probably added as there are 3 wath's in North Yorks.  Kirkbymoorside is further east near Pickering approx. 30 miles east of Wath. 

From the old Riding maps pre 1832 Kirkbymoorside and Wath are in the North Riding (Yorkshire) and Ripon in West Riding (Yorkshire) now with boundary movements however they are all North.

By the way, Wath is pronounced Woth and it's a silent k in the middle of Kirkbymoorside = Kerbymoorside 

[Jaunty]

A silent k!  Thank  you -- good to know that.  I note that the submitter of info on LDS has written it as "Kirby-Moorside," and there seems little consistency about whether it is one word or two.  I assume Kirkbymoorside is correct?    I should have guessed about "juxta" from the word juxtaposition -- makes sense -- appreciate the explanation.  At first glance the name was very confusing.  I have now entered these Kirkbymoorside folks and claimed them as GGG Grandparents, also Jonathan Russell and wife Ann as GGGG Graandparents.  Very satisfying!