Anne Maria Chalner Pearse

[Tom from OZ]

Hi everybody,

I have a little story which provides a challenge.

The story goes Anne was the product of a Duke and another ones Duchess the only children from both families.  She was sent to Scotland for schooling before returning south to England.

In 1871 she is in Finsbury aged 27
In 1881 she is in Southwark aged 37
In 1891 and 1901 she is in Bermondsey aged 47 and 57.  On 1871 census surname misspelt Dowset and in 1881 it is misspelt Dorositt

She married James Thomas Dowsett on 18 April 1864 in St Giles and from her marriage certificate her fathers name is given as John Joseph Chalner Pearse and her Mother Anne.

By 1881 she is living with George Dowsett, James brother

She died on 2 Aug 1904 and was born around 1843-44

The challenge is, I am unable to find any birth details of Anne, her birth place is consistent on every census as London, Middlesex, or any record of her in Scotland, could somebody possibly help please.

[jorose]

From the marriage certificate, is her mother really given? Who are the witnesses at the marriage? What is her father's occupation given as, or is he deceased? What address is given for her?

I see that in 1871 there is living with them a 'visitor', "John Pearse" (or Perse?), 20, a potman, b. London.

[Tom from OZ]

Hi Jorose,
Many thanks for your interest.

Her Mothers name was gained from census info and an Ann Chalner Pearse who I believe is her Mother is also one of the witnesses, the other witness being George ? but not Dowsett.
Fathers occupation House Painter and she was resident at 17 Tower Street, St Giles.

The John in the 1871 census is in fact John Joseph Chalner Pearse her father.

Tom

[jorose]

The John Pearse living with the Dowsetts in 1871 appears to be only 20, though, so I would have thought he was a brother. There is another John in the area ("Pearce") but he seems to be married to an Ellen - occupation isn't right, either.

Which census do you have her mother Ann on, and what are her details?

[Tom from OZ]

Hi Jorose,

Yes you are quite right he is the brother which leaves me with only Ann as a witness on the marriage certificate.

Tom

[Lawrence99]

Hi Tom

I can help you on all of this - I have the BC of Ann Maria and can scan a copy for you.  I am a direct descendant of the John Pearse that you mention in the 1871 census; he was indeed her brother.  Click on my name and send me a private post with your email address and I will bet back to you.

Lawrence

[dawnsh]

Hi Lawrence

Tom hasn't been on-line here for a few weeks. He should get email notifications that we have posted and hopefully come back soon.

Dawn

[Betty Y]

Dear Lawrence
For many years I tried to obtain the birth certificate of Ann Maria Pearse Chanler, she was my Great Great Grandmother.  I gather from her baptism record that she was born on July 3rd 1843.
After hiring two separate genealogists who also had no luck I gave up the search and resigned myself to the fact it just did not exist for whatever reason. I was VERY excited to read your posting saying you actually have this elusive certificate relating to Ann Maria! I would so grateful if you could please let me know the reference details so that I can apply to the register office and get a copy for myself.
Do hope you read this and can help.
Many thanks in advance

[dawnsh]

Hi Betty

Welcome to Rootschat 

Lawrence hasn't been online here since 2012 but as long as his email address hasn't changed he should receive a notification that you have posted and hopefully come back soon.

Dawn