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Re: Odd name
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 01 July 10 16:10 BST (UK) »
I'm looking, but there are several provinces to rummage through.

Might be a wild goose chase...how's that for a Canadian pun?? ;-)

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Re: Odd name
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 01 July 10 16:41 BST (UK) »
HEHE ;D
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Re: Odd name
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 01 July 10 16:45 BST (UK) »
I'm looking, but there are several provinces to rummage through.


Blanche's birthplace is given as Montreal in the 1891 census, which may help narrow the search.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Odd name
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 01 July 10 16:49 BST (UK) »
Yes, I found that a few minutes ago, and have not found anything in the Québec records yet.

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Re: Odd name
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 01 July 10 19:27 BST (UK) »
Well, I spent several hours today, trying to sort out which John Hissey was which. As far as I can tell, there were two born c.1830 in Berkshire. One was born at Cholsey to George and Sarah; he became a policeman, lived in Croydon, and married at least three times. The other was born at Wickham and probably baptised at Beenham: he was married to Caroline Wawman in 1849 and a carpenter by trade; after the 1851 census, he and Caroline appear to fall off the face of the earth. Another (or is it the same?) John Hissey pops up in the 1881 and 1891 censuses, with wife Elizabeth and daughter Blanche, the latter born in Canada c.1865. I've taken detailed notes on each of these men and can share them with you by e-mail, as I see there is a limit of 5500 characters on a post to this bulletin board.

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Re: Odd name
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 01 July 10 19:31 BST (UK) »
John Hissey, b. at Cholsey, Berkshire; policeman; d. Croydon:
   1841 census – John Hissey, b.1829 at Cholsey, Berkshire; living with parents, George and Elizabeth at Cholsey (Wallingford RD). Siblings: Charlotte, Sarah, Susan and Thomas.
   1851 census – John Hissey b.1830 at Cholsey, Berkshire; agricultural labourer; living with parents, George and Elizabeth at Cholsey. Siblings: Sushanna and Thomas.
   1856 marriage – John Hissey to Martha Kerby, Oxford RD, Berkshire/Oxfordshire. I cannot find subsequent census references to a John-and-Martha-Hissey combination. Would have to obtain the marriage registration, in order to learn who John’s father was.
   1858 marriage – John Hissey, married in 1st Q, to Esther Sheard, Croydon RD, Surrey. Need to obtain marriage registration.
   1861 census – John Hissey, b.1829 at Cholsey, Berkshire; police officer; living with wife, Esther (b.1830 at Cholsey) and daughters, Elizabeth A. and Alice., at Croydon, Surrey.
   1861 death – John Hissey, 1st Q 1861; died in Abingdon RD, Berkshire. (no age cited)
   1863 death – John Hissey, 4th Q 1863; died in Bradfield RD, Berkshire/Hants/Oxford. (no age cited)
   1871 census – reviewed all entries for Hissey born in Berkshire. Charles’ grandparents, Charles and Sarah, were still alive. Did not find a John Hissey born c.1828-32 born in Berkshire; tried spelling variants, but still no search results.
   1872 death – Esther Hissey died at Croydon.
   1873 marriage – John Hissey to Martha Sheard, Croydon RD (!!)
   1881 census – John Hissey, b.1829 at Cholsey, Berkshire; police pensioner; wife, Martha; living at Drayton road, Croydon, Surrey (where the Wawman brothers were busy building the houses on Churchill Road). Children: Emma (17), Eliza (10).
   1881 death – John Hissey, age 60 (b.1833), died in Croydon RD, Surrey. Married at least three times. Was enumerated in each of the 1841, 1851, 1861 and 1881 censuses; could not find him in the 1871 census.

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Re: Odd name
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 01 July 10 19:34 BST (UK) »
John Hissey, b.1828/9 at Wickham, Berkshire:
   1828 baptism – John Hissey, born 18 April 1828; son of Charles; baptised at Beenham, Berkshire on 27 July 1828.
   1849 marriage – John Hissey to Caroline Wawman, in Hinckley RD, Lancashire.
   1851 census – John Hissey, b.1829 at Wickham, Berkshire; carpenter; wife, Caroline (b.1829 at Burlescombe, Devon); living with parents, Charles and Sarah, at Thatcham, Berkshire (Newbury RD). Siblings: Robert and Sarah.
   1858 death – John Hissey, died 1st Q, in Tiverton RD, Devon. This follows a birth registered in 4th Q 1857. Very possibly a child born to John and Caroline (who was born at Burlescombe which is in Tiverton RD), or it could have been John, Caroline’s husband, who died. These are the only Hissey BMDs recorded in Tiverton RD, per FreeBMD. Need to get both registrations, for certainty.
   1861 census – reviewed all Hissey individuals born in Berkshire; looked for Hissey born in Devon (for Caroline). Also searched for Caroline Hussey, and for Caroline –with no surname—born in Burlescombe, Devon.
   1861 census – Charles Hissey, b.1852 at Newbury, Berkshire; living with grandparents, Charles and Sarah at Sandleford, Berkshire (Newbury RD). Uncle Robert and Aunt Sarah still at home. We’re assuming this is John’s and Caroline’s son: has anyone purchased the birth registration to confirm?
   1871 census – Charles Hissey, b.1852 at Newbury, Berkshire; was living as a lodger with the Harriet Read family at Ipswich St Clement, Suffolk. Unmarried and a pupil teacher at the National School.
   1871 census – reviewed all entries for Hissey born in Berkshire. Charles’ grandparents, Charles and Sarah, were still alive. Did not find a John Hissey born c.1828-32 born in Berkshire; tried spelling variants, but still no search results.
   1881 census – John Hissey, b.1832 at Newbury, Berkshire; railway wagon maker; living at St Paul’s Deptford, London. Wife, Elizabeth, b.1837 in Barnstable, Devon. Daughter, Blanche, b.1865 in Canada.
   1881 census – Charles Hissey, b. 1852 at Newbury; teacher, public elementary schools; living with wife, Sarah Ann (b.1843 at Greenham, Berkshire), at Tooting Graveney, Surrey.
   1885 marriage – Charles Hissey to Frances Mary Blackler in Croydon RD, Surrey.
   1891 census – John Hissey, b.1833 at Newbury, Berkshire; wagon maker; living at St Paul’s Deptford with wife, Elizabeth (b.1835 at Barnstaple, Devon), and Blanche (b. at Montréal c.1865).
   1891 census – Charles Hissey, b. 1852 at Newbury; certi. teacher; living at Tooting with wife, Frances Mary (b.1861 at Islington, Middlesex), and children, Violet Frances and Kathleen Sarah.
   1893 death – John Hissey, 1st Q in Greenwich RD; almost certainly the man mentioned in the 1891 census enumeration at St Paul’s Deptford, b.1833 at Newbury and whose daughter, Blanche, was born at Montréal. This man was enumerated in the 1881 and 1891 censuses; his occupation of railway wagon maker is consistent with the 1851 John Hissey’s occupation of carpenter. It is very tempting to theorize that he is the man whom Caroline Wawman married, that they went to Canada –leaving young Charles with his grandparents—and that Caroline died there. Unfortunately, I can find no trace in the records to support this hunch. It might help to conduct a search for a grant of probate and see whether Charles Hissey b.1852 is mentioned.
   1898 death – John Hissey, age 74 (b.1825), died in Basingstoke RD, Berkshire. I don’t know who this is.
   1901 census – Charles Hissey, b.1852 at Newbury, Berkshire; certificated elementary teacher; living at Streatham, London. Recorded as married, but his wife, Frances, had died in 1st Q 1903 in Wandsworth RD.
   1901 census – John Hissey’s widow, Elizabeth, and daughter, Blanche, continued to live in St Paul’s Deptford. From FreeBMD, it appears that Elizabeth died in 2nd Q 1901 at Greenwich, at age 65. ... I can find no further trace of Blanche, anywhere!
   BMDs at FreeBMD – searched for wildcard terms, Car* His* from 1851ff. Cross-referenced the few marriage results with censuses. There is a marriage for a Caroline Hissey in 4th Q 1886 in Wandsworth RD, London/Surrey, but without a corresponding man’s name. Checked also for Carol* Hessey and Hussey. No results except for a 1913 death registration index entry for Caroline Hissey in Rochdale RD, Lancashire: a search of the 1901 census shows this lady was born in 1837 at Ross, Herefordshire.
   Checked the Quebec Drouin Collections – no results for Hissey. Conducted a blanket search for Blanche Hissey born in Montréal, Québec: the only results were found in the 1881-1901 UK censuses.
   Searched the Canada 1861 and 1871 censuses for John Hissey.

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Re: Odd name
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 01 July 10 19:46 BST (UK) »
thanks Trish,
Interesting to see him with grandparents but no parents!
On his birth certificate he has no middle name-wonder if he added it later?
Can i ask how you got the info? I've had awful trouble tracking stuff down
Hissey, Clare, Clarke, Trimble, Blackler, Markey, Taylor, Graham, Doran, Goodison Clare,

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Re: Odd name
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 01 July 10 20:05 BST (UK) »
Whoops!  Charles was born 1852 not 51 :-[
Sorry, flying fingers land unexpectedly! There are a lot of Hisseys around Newbury, and are perhaps related. There are a lot of castles and big houses and estates round there as well as the racecourse. Greenham, thatcham and newbury are within a few miles of each other.
Thanks for all your hard work friends, I'll give it a good read over. For years I had few relatives and now I'm finding loads!
Hissey, Clare, Clarke, Trimble, Blackler, Markey, Taylor, Graham, Doran, Goodison Clare,