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Does this read Herts Neboth?
« on: Monday 09 March 09 19:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

Just want to check something with other people - make sure that I'm reading this correctly, does this read Herts Neboth?

It is from Ref:  Class: RG10; Piece: 564; Folio: 11; Page: 16; GSU roll: 823316, the 1871 Census return for Lydia Cowlin (other returns put her as born Langley (Hitchin), Hertfordshire.

All translations appreciated!

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Patricia

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Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 March 09 19:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Patricia

I think you are right.  Need to check placenames in Herts.

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Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 March 09 19:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

A long shot this.......an abbreviated, mis-heard.......Knebworth.   :-\



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Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 09 March 09 19:37 GMT (UK) »
Nanny

I was just thinking that myself - abbreviated Knebworth.

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Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 March 09 19:39 GMT (UK) »
Knebworth is about 3 miles form Langley, probably just how the enumerator heard it  :D


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Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 09 March 09 19:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks guys

Yes, it could well be a misheard Knebworth - her other census returns list her as born Langley or Hitchin, which is within 5 miles (mind you 5 miles was a lot further in 1871 than it is now!!!) of Knebworth.  Certainly makes more sense than Neboth - I googled that and only came up with my own post about her marriage to John Richard Cowlin!

Thanks again, your 'local' knowledge of various counties certainly makes life easier for us!  ;D

Regards,

Patricia
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SADLER (Somerset)
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Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 09 March 09 19:49 GMT (UK) »
Not always, Patricia,

what we often turn to is Genuki and its great gazetteer !!

http://www.genuki.org.uk/contents/


Barbara  :)
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Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 09 March 09 19:55 GMT (UK) »
True, it is a useful resource...what I really meant was that this part of the UK is pretty 'foreign' to me though (actually, being South African, it all is pretty 'foreign' I suppose ;)  )

Most of my own family history research is in Somerset/Dorset/Wiltshire, and I'm not too bad with places there any more, with the help of a couple of parish-locator programs.  However, the places closer to London aren't too familiar to me (this is stuff I'm doing for my great-aunt), and I'm really battling with them, certainly don't know them enough to think aaaaah, that sounds as if it COULD be ...!

Thanks again!

Patricia
Current Research:
RYAN (Waterford, Ireland), BENNETT (Queenstown, South Africa), SELLER (Australia)

Top Surnames:

PHILLIPS (Stithians, Cornwall)
STANNARD (Long Stratton, Norfolk)
CAVE (Milbourne Port, Somerset)
SELLER (Staffordshire)
ROSE (Somerset)
SAUNDERS (Idmiston, Wiltshire)
SADLER (Somerset)
MERCER (Donhead St Andrew, Wiltshire)
VINCENT (Wiltshire)
SPARGO (Stithians, Cornwall)

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Re: Does this read Herts Neboth?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 09 March 09 20:14 GMT (UK) »
Have you used the 'nearby places' at the top of a page when you are looking at a place on genuki?

It usually shows you places within 5 miles, but you can alter that to whatever distance you wish.  In this instance, entering Langley and then clicking on 'nearby places' brings up Knebworth, of course, local knowledge in knowing that it starts with a k helps, but another tip would be to then use your 'find on this page' and entering 'neb' would have found it too.

Barbara  :)
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