Temple Village Midlothian

[MonicaL]

...and one of whose ancestors was born in Temple in 1808.  His name as far as we know is John Anderson but I cant find a birth for him on FindMyPast  . 

Hi Dee

Not surprising you are not finding anything on FindMyPast as they do not have these Scottish records. The main Scottish info they really have are the transcripts of the Scottish censuses for 1841-1901.

The only place to check on official records is the official pay to view site www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk (SP). For this period, what you will be looking at will be entries from the Old Parish Registers (OPRs) as official registration didn't start in Scotland until 1855.

The other useful (free) source for info would be the indexes on https://familysearch.org/#start They are very helpful for first searches of Scottish records but there are limitations and they are not complete. I can't see John's birth or christening entry showing there, however, there is an entry showing on SP for a John born/christened in Temple in 1808, parents a John Anderson and mother a Betty Wilson. You can view an image online on SP for a small fee. Just be aware that entries on the OPRs very often only have minimal info, unlike statutory entries after the start of official registration in 1855.

Monica

Added: At least 9 children show for John Anderson and Betty/Elisabeth Wilson who married in 1801 in Borthwick, see some index entries here - link shortened from familysearch - http://tinyurl.com/d8xkdkp Looks like connected family to link up with here http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=12437&p=surnames.anderson

[john dowling]

info from S,P had some credits left
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05/06/1808

ANDERSON

JOHN

JOHN ANDERSON/BETTY WILSON FR2165 (FR2165)

M

TEMPLE

/MIDLOTHIAN

700/00 0020 0115

                               john dowling

p.s there are still a lot of wilson and anderson that stay in bonnyrigg very close to temple

[MonicaL]

That is great, John  All info always helps!

Monica

[DeeBoneham]

Thats fabulous. Will have to do some further research now. You have given us some good ideas.
Dee

[l_bamboo]

Do you have any photos or information on the Finlayson family stones? They would have been there pre 1700-1900. I would be forever thankful for any information you could pass along.

[Morris2013]

I wonder if there may be any record of a burial of a James Blake (possibly spelt Bleak) in the graveyard at Temple.

Born about 1795 and married to a Jane Brodie of Innerleithen in 1820.  At time of the 1841 Census, he was living with his wife and 3 children at Braidwood Bank, and described as a grazier (in other records referred to as a cattle dealer) . His son Adam married in Temple in 1848, so the family were probably there at that time. I have not found James in the 1851 Census.

Kind Regards

Morris

[Templar75]

Hi Morris,

              the only Blake I have is a Minister and his family, I tried a search on Scotlands People 1840 till 1880 and found one but the wife is off a different name, this James Bleak died in Peebleshire. You do have the correct names ?.

Regards.

Archie.


 

[Morris2013]

Hi Archie

Thanks.  The wife, Jane Blake ms Brodie is the correct name. She died in 1859 in Temple. Their son Adam, as the informant at his second marriage in 1878, also gives his mother's maiden name.

Jane Blake ms Brodie was widowed but still living in Temple at Braidwood Bank in the 1851 Census. That's why I thought James might be buried in Temple between 1841 and 1851.

The other possibility is that,  as both James Blake and Jane Brodie were originally from families in Innerleithen, the Blakes may have had a plot there.

Thanks again for checking

Regards

Morris

[Templar75]

Hi Morris,

                 thank you, yes there was the old tradition that they would be buried where they came from, I have tried again but his name is still not coming up I have tried Blake, Bleak, Bleake and still nothing. The only thing I can think of is the records were damaged and unreadable plus the records for Temple are terrible, there is a possibility that he is buried there.

However, I have found Jane and she died on the 13 April 1859 and is buried at Borthwick just up the road from Temple on the A68 road ( This came under Temple Parish ), her son- in - law was a James Affleck, now there is a chance that James is buried there as well.

On further searching I have a James Black who died at Temple in 1856 and was a Ploughman at Yorkston Farm he was aged 42 his parents were James Black and Christine Hare, but his wife is not Jane could she have had another Christian name, ?, there is a huge age gap she is much older than him but this was normal in those days.

If you send me your email address privately I will send on the death records to you.

Regards.

Archie.