Temple Village Midlothian

[Templar75]

Hi Jean,

               the Tait's were well known Farmers in the area and seemed to be quite a large clan as were the Pringle's, a Pringle was the Farmer at Temple Farm in the 1940's and earlier.

The Hind House your ancestors lived in was actually on Temple Farm and not in the Village as such, the Farm originally was at the beginning of Temple Village but for some reason was moved about 1/8 of a mile outside the Village and still going see Map attached.

I have no idea about the accident, there are three main gates to Arniston House, the first is just over the Gore Bridge to the right the other two are on the road to Temple Village, the first of these take you right up to the front door but the next one is always locked for some reason and is called Beech Drive.

The only possibility is that the Horse may have bolted for some reason, on that road there are a few bends so it may have happened after passing the second gate.

I am sorry but I don't have any death certificates regarding any individual at Temple or surrounding areas you will have to go on to Scotland's People for that.

If you live in Scotland or England call the Loanhead study Centre, Dr. Ken Bogle is in charge and a really nice lad, he or his staff will help you, this is the site.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/MLN/LocalStudies.html

Or Call Gorebridge Library again the staff there are really nice and will help the site is below.

http://www.midlothian.gov.uk/directory_record/1530/gorebridge_library

Cheers.

Archie.

[Jean2011]

Hello again, Archie

Thank you very much for information given and advice about further sources.  Hopefully, I shall try to follow them up soon.
One or two more questions, though:-

1. Why is it illegal to try to remove moss and lichen which makes a Headstone near illegible?

2.  The eldest son, John T THOMSON, born in 1844, is not listed on the 1861 Census with his family at Temple Farm Hind's House.  Presumably, at 17, he was working elsewhere.  Does the 1861 Census for Temple Parish show where he was?   

3.  I have been reading previous postings and see what you mean about the many TAITS in the area (replies 45/46).  However, I'm not sure great grandma Elizabeth H THOMSON (nee TAIT), b. Peebles, 1818, was a local woman.  Similarly, her husband, James THOMSON, b. 1821/2 at Ancrum, Roxburgh, sounds as if he may have moved to Temple for work.  Do you have Births, Marriages, Burials records of any other THOMSONS in the area who may be relatives?

Thank you again,

DJT

PS - I see a William THOMSON, Carter, probably caused the terrible gunpowder explosion on February 17th 1825 at Stobbs Mill! 

[ev]

hi all 

DJT - your 1st question was of interest to me
i did a bit of checking and it looks like 26 species of lichen and 33 other species(including mosses) are currently protected by British Statute
it is illegal to disturb either the lichens or their habitat

ev

[Templar75]

Hi DJT,

           sorry for the delay in getting back but I never got notification you had answered my post which is unusual.

I have in the 1861 Census John T Thomson living at Stow and his birth year is the same as you gave me 1844 but it states he was born in Tranent East Lothian he is down as being a Millwright Apprentice. H e is living with a load of Thomson's down there.

As regards to Lichen and Moss should anyone in many years from now wish to date the stone they can do this analyzing the Lichen and Moss, however, if you own the stone and want to clean it then you must ask the authorities and get permission.

I will get back to you regarding the other Thomson's at Temple as there are many, please remember it is Temple Parish and does not mean that they were all born or married in the village, Temple Parish took in a great area.

Cheers.

Archie.

[minniehaha]

Hi Archie,

Do you have the name of DRYSDALE and or DODS/DODDS in your records, please?
If so, I can provide further details.

Minniehaha
New Zealand.

[Templar75]

Hi minniehaha,

                      sorry but no Dodds recorded at Temple burial ground, however I do have Drysdale's and if these 3 entry's are relations to you then you have a cousin in Canada, here goes.

I have a photo of this stone but it is hard to read now due to the Lichen and weathering I was lucky catching it in time.

To the memory of William Falkner who died at Toxside --- March
1799 aged 61 years, also his Spouse Agnes Drysdale who died May
28th 1793 aged 43 years, also their Daughter Isabella who died
November 22nd ---- aged 14 years.

I have a photo of this one.

Alexander Drysdale who died 1st March 1818 aged 75 years, Isabella
Miller his Spouse died 19th August 1836 aged 72 years, Isabella
Drysdale his Daughter died 6th December 1842 aged 49 years,
Alexander Drysdale Grandson of above who died 14th June 1893
aged 74 years, Margaret Richardson his Wife died 6th February
1909 aged 68 years, Robert Drysdale their Son died in Infancy.
They are in Plot 34 on the old plan number 7 on my one.


The final one is.

William Drysdale no date of burial given,  Alexander Drysdale aged 74 died at Carrington burial 16 June 1893  Margaret Drysdale aged 68 died at Carrington burial 9 February 1909, I assume this is his wife.
They are in Plot 56 on the old plan I don't have a number on my plan as there is no headstone, they are buried next to John Craig the Outerston Farmer.

Can you send the details please of the Dodd's family it's always handy.

If you require the photos please tell me and I will post them.

Cheers.

Archie.

[minniehaha]

Hi Archie,

Thank you for such an informative response.

I have a Mary Drysdale born 23.6.1823 @ Prettyrent, Temple to James Drysdale and Mary Brown. In the 1841 Carrington census, Mary and 7 siblings together with the aforementioned parents are living @ Carrington Mill.
In the 1851 Carrington census, we still have a William (50), brother, James (58), Head and various younger members of the Drysdale family still living @ Carrington Mill.

I don't know if Carrington Mill is in the area of Temple.

I suspect that the names in the final part of your message may be mine.

Mary Drysdale b. 1823 as above, married my great-great-grandfather Alexander Dods/Dodds @ Edgelaw in 1840.
All the Edgelaw Dods/Dodds are mine.

Thank you so much for your help.
Minniehaha.

[Templar75]

Hi minniehaha,

I am lead to believe that the Drysdale's built the Mill.

Temple
Births. 1855- 1875

Drysdales at Temple

Isabella Jane Brown Drysdale born at Temple 29th May 1858 Mother Jane Drysdale
(  No father mentioned. )

Mary Drysdale born at Temple 5th December 1858 Mother Isabella Drysdale ( No father mentioned.

Alexander Drysdale or Ritchardson born Temple the 20th June 1863. also James Drysdale or Ritchardson born at Temple the 31st May 1865, also Margaret Drysdale or Ritchardson born Temple the 6th June 1867. Father Alexander Drysdale and Mother Margaret Ritchardson. ( Were they married or not )

John Drysdale born Temple the 6th August 1869. Mother Annie Drysdale.

I have attached part of a Map for you showing the location as you can see there the Mill a fair distance from Carrington Village.

I have also attached the House that the Drysdale family lived in, it is located nearly half way up Temple Village, the village was started in 1760 the cottage to the right as you look at the photo was built in 1760 the first Cottage.

I will post more photos of the Mill for you after this.

Cheers.

Archie.

[minniehaha]

Hi Archie,

Many, many thanks for all the information sent concerning the Drysdales and Carrington Mill. Very informative and much appreciated. It has enabled me to put "flesh on bones". The photographs are a wonderful bonus.

Minniehaha. New Zealand.