Temple Village Midlothian

[fred2derf]

Hello Archie,

Thank you very much.

A few of those we did before re George & Grace.  We did go through the MI before as well.

Pity but it seems the only two that can be found are the two in IGI, Joseph 1805 and William 1807.  I was hoping other siblings could be found but we are out of luck.

Thanks for the details of the other location for some of the marriages.

I have used SP and yes, it's possible to use the credits up very quickly.

I've not searched using VAST yet.

Regards,

Fred

[Templar75]

Hi Fred,

 sorry I can't come up with the goods, here is some information from the Census records.

Cheers.

Archie.


1841 Census for Temple Parish.

Address Upper part of Gorebridge

Georg West       born 1816 Trade: Cooper Journeyman age 25
Grace West     born 1814 age 27 born Kirkcaldy, Fife
Catharine West born 1838 age 3
Margt West     born 1838 age 3
Eliza West     born 1840 age 1
George Clerk    26

Borthwick Parish.

Address  Clay House

William Sinclair    60 ( I can only think that these are relatives ).
William Sinclair    32
John Sinclair    28
Fanny Sinclair    20
John Spevin    7
George West    4

1851 Census

Borthwick Parish

Address Village of Clay House

12 Clayhouses

Geo West     age 36
Grace West     age 36 born Kirkcaldy, Fife
Catharine West age 13
Mary West      age 13
Eliza West      age 11
Grace West      age   9
William West      age   7
Anne West      age   3

1861 Census

Bortwick Parish

Address Arniston Inn

George West     45
Grace West     45 born Kirkcaldy, Fife
Amey West     43 ( down as daughter the age is wrong,  I think this is Mary ).
Joseph West       9
Alexander Treanch 3 ( Trench )

1871 Census

Address

Stobhill Village

George West    56
Grace West    56  born Kirkcaldy, Fife
Joseph West    22  ( Stone Mason )
Alexr Trench    14 born 1857 Grandson ( Coal Miner )

[fred2derf]

Hello Archie,

Thank you very much.

Amey West     43 ( down as daughter the age is wrong,  I think this is Mary ).

I think that is Annie aged 13.

I've seen Grace listed as born in Kirkcaldy and Inverkeithing, more often as the former.

I have a copy of Grace's death certificate and neither parent is listed.

Regards,

Fred

[Templar75]

Hi Fred,

            I have tried Scotland's People but came up with nothing of course they did not have to register births in those days, I base Grace being around 22 when she married so perhaps born around 1815, however, I tried the 1841 Census for Fife and found the family below.

There is a Grace horn born around the time your Grace was married, I tried most of Fife and this is the only family with a Grace in it, these may be relations but I leave it up to you to decide.

We will get there, it may take some time but I feel we can do it.

Cheers.

Archie.

1841 Census.

Address: Masters Place - Dunfermline

Name            Age
George Horn    45 born 1796 Fife Cotton Worker
Ann Horn            45 born 1796 Fife
Agness Horn    19 born 1822 Fife
George Horn    17 born 1824 Fife  Linen Worker
Alex Horn    15 born 1826 Fife Linen Worker
Margret Horn    11 born 1830 Fife
Mary Horn      9 born 1832 Fife
Grace Horn      5 born 1836 Fife
Andrew Horn      3 born 1838 Fife
 

[fred2derf]

Hello Archie,

Thank you very much.

The name appears as HORN and HORNE and I noticed some in Scoonie. A family with a daughter named Grace could well be related.

I've been trying to 'guess' parents based on the naming pattern of the children but having twins daughters makes it difficult.  Also, I'm not 100% sure we have all of George & Grace's children anyway.

It could be a brick wall.

Regards,

Fred

[Templar75]

Hi Fred and Dorothy,

I don't know if I gave you these details or not ( Below ), these are the 9 members of the family all in the same plot at Temple.

I have also attached a Map of the area from 1854 showing where the Gunpowder mill was and Clay house where the West's lived,notice to the right of Clay House there is a Magazine for the Mill, this was blown up and a man called Cornwall was killed there, he is buried in Temple ground just past the gate as you enter on the left.

Cheers.

Archie.

It seem George's father William died a very young man, strange why his wife is not named in the burial book, she may have moved back to Edinburgh when he died.

William West aged 25 yrs died 15 Nov 1869.

Margaret West aged 2 1/2 yrs 22 Jan 1875.

George West aged 62 yrs died 10 March 1880.

Charles Sheddon aged 78 yrs died 9 April 1880.

Grace Horne aged 65 yrs died9 Sept 1885.

William Walker aged 75 died 2 Nov 1895.

Grace Walker West aged 56 died at Clay House 5 July 1896.

Joseph West aged 47 died at Edinburgh  5 Dec 1898.

Margaret Sheddon aged 86 died at Edinburgh 6 Dec 1926.

   

[fred2derf]

Hello Archie,

Thank you very much.

The old map is interesting.

I don't have William or Catherine's death.

We did go through the headstone inscription previously trying to sort out some dates that were in doubt.

The William who died in 1869 is the son of George. He was born on 7 Feb 1844  Temple ?

The Tombstone of George West and Grace Horn Temple Midlothian in Edinburgh.
Erected by  G & J WEST
In loving memory of their brother WILLIAM he died 1st November 1869 aged 25 years.

So it looks like we have missed another one. So it's 15th not 1st of November?

Regards,

Fred

[Templar75]

Hi Fred,

            thanks for correcting me regarding William yes the date in the old burial book says 15th not the 1st of course that could be a mistake by whoever wrote it in, I tried Scotland's people, he is there but I have no more credits left, you will have to do that yourself. Just check " Midlothian " then " Temple " for the year there are two boxes just put in both 1869 and it will come up, unfortunately it just gives the year not the date you will see that on the form.

Cheers.

Archie.

[fred2derf]

Hello Archie,

Thanks. 

That part of the headstone is not worn much and it has 1st so there is an error somewhere.

Yes, I will be getting more credits this month because of the increase.

Regards,

Fred