John Love ALLEN

[pottydotty]

Can anybody help me find out a little about my father? He died when I was very young and my mother remarried.
His name was JOHN LOVE ALLEN I think he was born about 1903 in Limavady, Derry. He died from cancer on 26 Jul 1937 in Derry aged 28/29.
He married SARAH PATRICIA RYAN about 1929 in Derry.
Thank you.
Mary

[kingskerswell]

Mary,
        Your dates are a bit late for my sources but I had a look for an Allen/Love connection and found that Thomas Allen married Margaret Love in Glendermott 1st Presbyterian Churchon 31 Jul 1913, possibly a bit late for you.
        As a boy in the 1950s I remember two Love families in the Aghanloo district to the north of Limavady but have no information on them.

Regards

[kingskerswell]

Mary,
       I have done a bit more digging on the new LDS Pilot Site and come up with John Love Allen birth registered in Limavady district in the Apr-Jun quarter 1914. The marriage I listed previously may very well be his parents.

Regards

[pottydotty]

THANK YOU SO MUCH! 

Here I am in my 70s and now finding out about my father. I know he was disowned because he changed his religion to marry Sarah Patricia. Her father JOSEPH RYAN married a MARY DEMPSEY abt 1904 in Derry but who their parents were I am still looking.
I am very new to all this but do hope to find a little bit out.

Once again Thank you.

[kingskerswell]

Mary,
        Joseph and Mary were married in Londonderry R.C. Church on 22 May 1904.

Regards

[aghadowey]

Mary- 'recent' information can sometimes be difficult to get but it looks like you've already gotten some details on your parents' family.

The 1911 census for Co. Derry is going to be coming online 'soon' according to National Archives site (although each section of the project has been delayed so I can't see them having all of 1911 done by this summer). When it comes online hopefully you'll get lots more details on your parents, grandparents, etc.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/about/futureplans.html

[pottydotty]

Thank you again for all the info.

Is there any way I can find out any thing else about JOSEPH RYAN, MARY DEMPSEY or JOHN LOVE ALLEN families?

Is there a 1901c I could look at? I can't find very much on Latter Day Saints or any other free sites and a friend has looked on Ancestry for me but Northern Ireland seems to have been ignored.

I did have a brother but I heard he died a few years ago, I have no idea who he married or any children there might be.

[aghadowey]

Ancestry doesn't have many Irish records in its database which is why you weren't able to find much there. LDS site (www.familysearch.org) have a bit more in the way of Irish records but not really anything as recent as you are now looking for (for example, many, not all, Irish births 1864-c1882).

LDS Pilot site has recently added index to Irish civil registrations (birth, marriages, deaths) and for Northern Ireland the index goes up to 1921.
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347

1901 census is available from several sources (not online yet- it will be added to National Archives website after they get 1911 for all Ireland done) such as PRONI, some Northern Ireland libraries like Ballymena, and LDS libraries. You can order 1901 census from your local LDS library for a small fee if they don't have it in stock but as it's not indexed you have to know which film to order.

Details of living people, or recently deceased people, shouldn't be posted here. If you want to send me a PM I'll try to answer any questions you might have that can't be put on this thread.

[pottydotty]

Thank you aghadowey for your help.

Now I am wondering if I can get any further back in my history. My father JOHN LOVE ALLEN parents were THOMAS ALLEN and MARGARET LOVE. They were married 31 Jul 1913 at 1st. Pres. Church (Glandermott - is that a place?) I have no further data. Can anyone help me find out their dates or parents?

On the other side my mother SARAH PATRICIA RYAN (dob 12 Mar 1906) her parents were JOSEPH RYAN (dob 1872 Strabane) MARY JANE DEMPSEY (dob 1867 at 0479 Articlave). JOSEPH's parents were MICHAEL RYAN and MARY O'NEIL (dob abt 1835 Newtown Limavady) Joseph also had a sister Lizzie. 

MARY's parents were DANIEL DEMPSEY and MARY JANE McGONIGAL.

That is all the information I have, can anybody help me get further back or find some dates for me?? Or just helping me in showing me where to find out these facts. It seems to be very difficult to find anything out through the usual sites.

Thank you.