Sutherlands in Christchurch 1860 +?

[trevk]

Hi,
Unfortunately I am only aware of the siblings you have mentioned and was unaware that there were any others until I read these posts.

I have found a Isabella Sutherland 22yrs Domestic servant from Caithness-shire who came to New Zealand from London on the "Blue Jacket" it left London on 18th July 1866 and arrived in Lyttelton on14th October 1866. If this is our Isabella then she was using Sutherland before she came to NZ.
Trev

[Gwenn02]

Waoooo !!!!  another cousin !!!!   

Yes I found info on Keating with somebody who is not a rootschatter ....
I can give them to you if you want

Hi,
I am researching the Sutherland/ Keating family. I can't add much to what you have found here, but my father was adopted by Frederick Keating and his second wife Amelia Sarah Edge. Frederick Keating was born 15th April 1876 in Napier he first married Catherine McGregor  on 12th January 1899 in Whanganui. He then married Amelia Sarah Edge on the 10th December 1918 at Westport. He owned Dawson's Hotel in Reefton and died there on 13th January 1939. I only have back to William Keating and Mary/Ellen Collins on the Keating side but know nothing about them. On the Sutherland side I couldn't find any info past Louisa Isabella Sutherland, so was very interested and confussed by the info on her death cert naming her parents as McKenzie, would love to hear if you have got any more info on this.

Trev

[Gwenn02]

The Isabella KEATING (maiden name Mckenzie) who died in Napier was also coming from Caithness (according to Napier Courthouse death register transcripts from NZ society of genealogists)  .. and maybe from a place call Latheron. There is lot of Sutherland in Caithness (it's a Lord Sutherland area according to my records about scottish clearances) and maybe ... it's only a guess Sutherland was a name use because the place she was coming from ... feudal system last long in the Highlands ... it's only a guess )

Hi,
Unfortunately I am only aware of the siblings you have mentioned and was unaware that there were any others until I read these posts.

I have found a Isabella Sutherland 22yrs Domestic servant from Caithness-shire who came to New Zealand from London on the "Blue Jacket" it left London on 18th July 1866 and arrived in Lyttelton on14th October 1866. If this is our Isabella then she was using Sutherland before she came to NZ.
Trev

[trevk]

Hi,
Yes I thought I only had a few relations with my Dad being an only child and my Mum only having one sister, but since I start this I am finding relations all over the world !!
As far as Isabella's surname is concerned it seems to be quite common to change it when changing country, I have two branches on my Mothers side who have done the same thing. I guess they didn't think about their distant relatives trying to trace their family trees.
Thank you for all your previous postings I have got a heap of information from them. I would love any info I can get on the Keating side.

Thanks again
Trev

[Gwenn02]

It's late her in nz... I have no time right now to send you anything (will do it later)

However you can clic on my nickname and see my previous posts (on various link with keating / jones etc... family

Hi,
Yes I thought I only had a few relations with my Dad being an only child and my Mum only having one sister, but since I start this I am finding relations all over the world !!
As far as Isabella's surname is concerned it seems to be quite common to change it when changing country, I have two branches on my Mothers side who have done the same thing. I guess they didn't think about their distant relatives trying to trace their family trees.
Thank you for all your previous postings I have got a heap of information from them. I would love any info I can get on the Keating side.

Thanks again
Trev

[Gwenn02]

I went yesterday for some 'diggins in the nz electoral rolls & Wise directory
I might have found the name of Ellen Maria other sibling (one of the boy)

JOHN KEATING - the father :
In Wise directory 1880-81 - found KEATING J. sheepfarmer, Mohaka, Hawkes Bay
In Wise directory 1892 - Dickens street Napier
Wise 1899 - Raglan st - Napier

NZ electoral roll 1882-84 - residential - Napier - Laborer (not in rolls for previous years)
NZ electoral roll 1887 - residential - Napier- Laborer
NZ electorall roll 1902 - Hastings street - Napier

for JOHN JOHN KEATING - the son
Wise directory 1902 - Jno J - Hardinge Rd Napier
electoral rolls 1902 and  1905  occupation = cab proprietor - same address with his wife
electoral rolls    1919   = taxi proprietor - same address with his wife Christina Mary

I also found and it might be the 'missing brother

there is also a Arthur Ernest KEATING Coote Rd Napier - cabman + wife Annie
electoral rolls 1905   Arthur Ernest living Colin street - cabman
electoral rolls  1919 - address  120 Waghorne Street cabman + wife Annie

i didn't have time to search further ....

Regarding Ellen Maria's siblings, the BDM records have Frederick born to John and Louise Isabella Keating in 1876 (the 8 yo on Isabella's death cert?) and Isabella Jessie born to John and Isabella Keating in 1881 (the 2 yo on Isabella's death cert?).   I have now also found a news clipping from 1895 about John Joseph 'second son of John Keating of Napier' getting married (paperspast, Hawkes Bay Herald) - if he was the 14yo on Isabella's death cert then he would have been 25 getting married, which makes sense.  So we need to look for 2 more boys - the 16 yo and the 6 yo on Isabella's death cert

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[Gwenn02]

Up !!!

Just for Ruthel and TrevK ... in case of they didn't see the last post :-)

[trevk]

I checked out NZBDM and found Arthur Ernest Keating born 1878 (the right year for the 6yr old) Father John Keating and Mother Josephine Keating (another mistake ?). Marriage record for 1901 to a Annie Leith (which is interesting as John Joseph Keating married Christina Mary Leith), and a death record for 1936.
Trev

[Gwenn02]

   Hello

Happy New year ....