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Re: Sutherlands in Christchurch 1860 +?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 08 March 09 00:55 GMT (UK) »
I have

Isabella Sutherland, married 8 january 1867 to John Keating, Christchurch

no other date  :(

one of the children = Ellen Maria Keating, born in Rangiora (near Christchurch) in 1869

Hi again Gwen,

Your Ellen Maria KEATING married William Hastings JONES in 1889 Folio: 1181

Will see if I can find anything else.

Tiffaney
Caithness: Sutherland (2 families)
Perthshire: McLauchlan, Galletly. Dunn. Mill 
Glasgow: Paisley: Gilmour; Fillans
Orkney: Shearer, Peace, Laughton,Scott,Craigie, Sinclair, Tulloch, Spence, Laing
Devon: Moore, Gempton, Copp, Boone, Carter, Lee, Gill,
London:  Laver, Rix, Nightingale,Hartley, Mason,Satchell.
Nottingham: Bomforth, Shaw
Australia: Graham, Tattersall, Galletly
Ireland: Angland

N.Z: McLauchlan, Sutherland, Shearer,  Rix, Moore, Hartley,Mason, Gilmour, Bomforth,  Dunn, Galletly

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Re: Sutherlands in Christchurch 1860 +?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 08 March 09 01:21 GMT (UK) »

This may be your John & Isabella Keating MS Sutherland.

Buried Old Napier Cemetery F.O.2.14 Record No: 1509

Isabella died 1884 aged 36
John died 1905 aged 67

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Caithness: Sutherland (2 families)
Perthshire: McLauchlan, Galletly. Dunn. Mill 
Glasgow: Paisley: Gilmour; Fillans
Orkney: Shearer, Peace, Laughton,Scott,Craigie, Sinclair, Tulloch, Spence, Laing
Devon: Moore, Gempton, Copp, Boone, Carter, Lee, Gill,
London:  Laver, Rix, Nightingale,Hartley, Mason,Satchell.
Nottingham: Bomforth, Shaw
Australia: Graham, Tattersall, Galletly
Ireland: Angland

N.Z: McLauchlan, Sutherland, Shearer,  Rix, Moore, Hartley,Mason, Gilmour, Bomforth,  Dunn, Galletly

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Re: Sutherlands in Christchurch 1860 +?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 08 March 09 02:51 GMT (UK) »
Napier ??? ...

how strange and it might be them because Ellen Maria Keating (daughter of the couple John Keating - Isabella Sutherland) despite being born in Rangiora ůmarried William JONES  in 1889 and the couple moved (?)in 1892-93  to Napier (for william to work on the Napier breakwater construction) .. 2  of their son (Stanley and Norman were born in Napier 1894 and 1897)

How John Keating and Isabella S.   ended  up in Napier ? ... big mystery

what are your sources ?
GILLIES (ROC/Applecross/..);   
MACDONALD  (ROC/Applecross/..);   
MACDONALD (INV/../..);   
MACRAE (ROC/Duirinish, Lochalsh/..);   
MCKENZIE (ROC/Applecross (Milton)/..);   
MCLENNAN  (ROC/Applecross/..);   
MCLEOD  (ROC/Applecross/..);   
MOFFAT CUL/Alston, Penrith/..);
JONES (Menzies Ferry, NZ, Monmoutshire, Wales, Inglewood, Pleasant Creek, Australia)
McPike (Melbourne, Inglewood, Pleasant Creek, Derry)

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Re: Sutherlands in Christchurch 1860 +?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 08 March 09 03:03 GMT (UK) »
I have

Isabella Sutherland, married 8 january 1867 to John Keating, Christchurch

no other date  :(

one of the children = Ellen Maria Keating, born in Rangiora (near Christchurch) in 1869

Hi again Gwen,

Your Ellen Maria KEATING married William Hastings JONES in 1889 Folio: 1181

Will see if I can find anything else.

Tiffaney

I knew about that one ... William and Ellen Maria are my husband great grandparents
GILLIES (ROC/Applecross/..);   
MACDONALD  (ROC/Applecross/..);   
MACDONALD (INV/../..);   
MACRAE (ROC/Duirinish, Lochalsh/..);   
MCKENZIE (ROC/Applecross (Milton)/..);   
MCLENNAN  (ROC/Applecross/..);   
MCLEOD  (ROC/Applecross/..);   
MOFFAT CUL/Alston, Penrith/..);
JONES (Menzies Ferry, NZ, Monmoutshire, Wales, Inglewood, Pleasant Creek, Australia)
McPike (Melbourne, Inglewood, Pleasant Creek, Derry)


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Re: Sutherlands in Christchurch 1860 +?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 11 March 09 02:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tiffany,

Had a look at the card index today. Lots of Sutherlands there so not possible to get details of all of them!
Did find a few I thought could be related including Catherine who died 1909 and others buried in the same plot at Addington Cemetery...

Catherine SUTHERLAND, buried 18 Nov 1909. 82 years. Section 137c Addington.
Undertaker: Langford and Rhind

Archabald SUTHERLAND, buried 27 Jan 1876, 40 years, Addington plot 137B

Archabald Cook SUTHERLAND, buried 21 July 1876, 5 months, plot 137a Addington

Barbra SUTHERLAND buried 9 Jan 1878, 40 years, plot 137B Addington.

James SUTHERLAND, died 15 May 1871, buried 17 May 1871, 29 years, Addington plot 137C


Noticed also this marriage and link to Caithness... but might not be one of yours!

William SUTHERLAND married Isabella KELLY, 1 Aug 1882 at Weslyan Church Lyttelton
Groom: 28 years, tailor, POB Caithness, Scotland, Present residence: Lyttelton, usual: Christchurch
Parents: Alexander, shoemaker and Jane nee SUTHERLAND
Bride: 24 years, POB: Hobart Tasmanis, present residence: Lyttelton, usual: Christchurch
Parents: William, labourer, Isabella nee MCFARQUHER

Possible link with name SINCLAIR ....

Catherine Ann Sinclair SUTHERLAND, buried 18 July 1867, 10 days, Addington plot 355B

Charles Sinclair Huia SUTHERLAND, born 9 Sep 1911, baptised 5 May 1929. Parents: George Alexander Douglas and Annie, Redcliffs, builder.

Couldn't find a record for the marriage of Christina and William MCLAUCHLAN. Pity - it may have had witnesses.

As I said - lots more Sutherlands in the index but probably best you have a look yourself some time if you are able to.

Cheers,
Stephanie  :)
TURNER - Somerset / New Zealand
BETTY , TREMBATH - Cornwall / New Zealand
KEDGE, PARSONS, LEE - Norfolk
CRUICKSHANK , ALLAN - Scotland /  New Zealand
HAVELOCK - Durham
GREEN -  New Zealand
GIBBENS / GIBBONS - New Zealand
SARGENT - Lincolnshire

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Re: Sutherlands in Christchurch 1860 +?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 11 March 09 05:12 GMT (UK) »
Hello Stephanie,

Pretty ghastly weather to be heading into town but okay in the library I guess.

Thank you very much for your time & kindness looking for my Sutherlands.

Your are pretty spot on with all except not too sure about William Sutherland married to Isabella Kelly but is indeed a possible.

Witnesses to Christina S & William McLauchlan marriage June 1868, were James Sutherland, farmer, Selwyn District and Majory NAIRN - (Williams Niece).  Know about Majory as her Mother was William's sister Ann DUNN

Have looked everywhere for James Sutherland, mind you there are also heaps of them, but haven't found the correct man yet.

Thank you once again for helping me Stephenie which is very much appreciated.

Warm regards,
Tiff
ps: Will stay a night with my daughter  who lives in ChCh asap & let you know if I find out more.
Caithness: Sutherland (2 families)
Perthshire: McLauchlan, Galletly. Dunn. Mill 
Glasgow: Paisley: Gilmour; Fillans
Orkney: Shearer, Peace, Laughton,Scott,Craigie, Sinclair, Tulloch, Spence, Laing
Devon: Moore, Gempton, Copp, Boone, Carter, Lee, Gill,
London:  Laver, Rix, Nightingale,Hartley, Mason,Satchell.
Nottingham: Bomforth, Shaw
Australia: Graham, Tattersall, Galletly
Ireland: Angland

N.Z: McLauchlan, Sutherland, Shearer,  Rix, Moore, Hartley,Mason, Gilmour, Bomforth,  Dunn, Galletly

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Re: Sutherlands in Christchurch 1860 +?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 21 March 09 02:28 GMT (UK) »
I have an Elizabeth Sutherland born abt 1835.  She married Charles Fraser at the home of W. Sutherland, Columbo street, Chch in 1867.
Elizabeth died in 1918 at pages road, Halswell, Chch,  and is buried in Addington cemetery
Unfortunately the death cert has very little info other than born scotland with parents unknown.

Would love to find out where elizabeth came from.
Does she fit into anyones family on this list???

Sandy

Perry;Helland, Bodmin, Falmouth
Daniel;Lanivet
Bride; Aghada Cork Ireland
Higgins; Aghada Cork Ireland
Jenkin; Wendron
Campbell - Duirinish  Isle of Skye Scotland
Munro - Sutherland Scotland
Matheson - Sutherland Scotland
Macleod - Sutherland Scotland
Davidson/Davison - New Zealand
Kingsbury - New Zealand

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Re: Sutherlands in Christchurch 1860 +?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 21 March 09 04:18 GMT (UK) »

Hello byper,

Extremely interested to learn you have an Elizabeht Sutherland born c1835 & that she marr ied fron the home of Mr. W. Sutherland Christchurch.
If you read my earlier query I too have an Elizabeth Sutherland who was born 1837.  Your Elizabeth's marriage in 1867 is close enough to my Christinas who also married from the home of Mr Sutherland, Christchurch in June 1868.

Byper do you have Elizabeth's marriage cert.  The Sutherlands who I mentioned earlier were also buried in Addington Cemetery except for Christina who was buried Waterton, Ashburton.

Hope somehow we can connect our Sutherlands with one another altho' there appear to quite a few who lived in Christchurch around 1860's +.

Do you have the names & dates of their children yet?

Will have a looksee & see if I can find something.

Regards,
Tiffaney

Caithness: Sutherland (2 families)
Perthshire: McLauchlan, Galletly. Dunn. Mill 
Glasgow: Paisley: Gilmour; Fillans
Orkney: Shearer, Peace, Laughton,Scott,Craigie, Sinclair, Tulloch, Spence, Laing
Devon: Moore, Gempton, Copp, Boone, Carter, Lee, Gill,
London:  Laver, Rix, Nightingale,Hartley, Mason,Satchell.
Nottingham: Bomforth, Shaw
Australia: Graham, Tattersall, Galletly
Ireland: Angland

N.Z: McLauchlan, Sutherland, Shearer,  Rix, Moore, Hartley,Mason, Gilmour, Bomforth,  Dunn, Galletly

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Re: Sutherlands in Christchurch 1860 +?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 21 March 09 05:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tiffaney
The info i posted about elizabeth sutherlands marriage came from the marriage certificate. The marriage cert has her age as 24 which makes her born in 1843 but death cert has her age at 83 in 1918 making her born in 1835. We have an 8 year gap in the year she was born. No parent info on marriage cert, only that she married at the home of w. sutherland, columbo street. I  am assuming this was her fathers home, and the W would more than likely be William.
The children of elizabeth sutherland and her husband charles fraser are -
Mary Fraser born 1868 , Jessie Fraser born 1869, James Sutherland Fraser born 1871, Margaret Fraser born 1874 and Annie Fraser born 1876 .

Regards
Sandy

Perry;Helland, Bodmin, Falmouth
Daniel;Lanivet
Bride; Aghada Cork Ireland
Higgins; Aghada Cork Ireland
Jenkin; Wendron
Campbell - Duirinish  Isle of Skye Scotland
Munro - Sutherland Scotland
Matheson - Sutherland Scotland
Macleod - Sutherland Scotland
Davidson/Davison - New Zealand
Kingsbury - New Zealand