Trimley St Mary’s Parish Registers -TURTILL (TURTLE)

[jonwicken]

William Turtill or Turtle married Sarah before 1766. He was buried at Trimley St Mary in 1777. I have not found their marriage yet.

Their children were:

1. William Turtle (1766–1766). Baptised and buried in Kirton.

2. James Turtill|Turtle (1769–1832). Baptised in Trimley and buried in Falkenham. His baptism records his mother's name as Mary in a presumed clerical error. He married Sarah Hall and had children baptised at Levington.

3. Robert|Robert James Turtle (1771–1842). Baptised at Falkenham and died in Lambeth, Surrey. He was a gardener and married Amey Clarke in 1801 and had children baptised in Lambeth. This is my ancestor.

4. Roger Turtle (1773–1777). Baptised at Falkenham and buried at Trimley St Mary.

5. Sarah Turtill (1776–1778). Baptised at Trimley St Martin and buried at Trimley St Mary.

[jonwicken]

James Turtill was buried in 1809 at Trimely St Mary aged 59, so born c1749 to 1750.

He married Elizabeth Downing in 1771 at Bromeswell, Suffolk. Their first child was baptised in Bromswell and all the others in Trimley.

Elizabeth died in 1798 and in 1794 he married Mary Smith and had more children.

His will is here: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7233936

With Elizabeth he had the following children:

1. Mary Turtill (1772–1774)

2. James Turtill (1773–1816) married Lucy Kent. Lived in Trimley.

3. Edmund Turtill (1775–1805)

4. Elizabeth Turtill|Salter (1776–after 1809) married   Robert Salter before 1800 and lived in Great Oakley, Essex

5. William Turtill (1779–1779)

With Mary he had:

6. John Turtill (1796–1796)

7. Robert Turtill (born 1797)

8. Rebecca Turtill (1803–1862)

[jonwicken]

The last assumed Turtle brother's name is not known. But his widow Elizabeth Trimley died in 1828 and was buried at Trimley St Mary. She was 85 so born c1742/3.

Her will names four children:

1. Mary Turtill married to a Hall.

2. Betsey Turtill married Aaron Kent in Trimley in 1810.

3. Sarah Turtill married Thomas Etheridge in Ipswich in 1817.

4. Thomas Turtill

None of these children were baptised in Trimley.

The clue seems to be in the burial of a Thomas Turtle in 1852.

This was on 15 July 1852 at Nacton, Suffolk, England, aged 73 years.

The burial shows he was buried at the workhouse and was from Trimley St Martin.

The 1851 census shows he was born in Oakham, Norfolk in c1778 to 1779.

However as far as I know there is no Oakham in Norfolk.

Can anyone please help with working out any more about the family?

Thank you.

[gobbitt]

Jon

Norfolk has no Oakham but there is Holkham, on the north coast, and also Hockham, closer to Suffolk, where a Thomas TUTTLE, son of William and Elizabeth, was baptized in 1779 (FamilySearch).

William TUTTLE married Elizabeth CHAPMAN at Hockham in 1765 (FamilySearch).

In 1786 Elizabeth TURTLE late CHAPMAN had a daughter named Elizabeth at Walton in Suffolk (next to Trimley) and possibly another in 1788, followed by Sarah in 1791. Coincidence?

Felixstowe FHS has transcribed the membership lists of Walton's Baptist Chapel. An entry dated 2 June 1816 names single woman Sarah TURTLE of Trimley who, after marrying Mr ETHRIDGE, left to join the church in Romney Street, Westminster.

David

[jonwicken]

Jon

Norfolk has no Oakham but there is Holkham, on the north coast, and also Hockham, closer to Suffolk, where a Thomas TUTTLE, son of William and Elizabeth, was baptized in 1779 (FamilySearch).

William TUTTLE married Elizabeth CHAPMAN at Hockham in 1765 (FamilySearch).

In 1786 Elizabeth TURTLE late CHAPMAN had a daughter named Elizabeth at Walton in Suffolk (next to Trimley) and possibly another in 1788, followed by Sarah in 1791. Coincidence?

Felixstowe FHS has transcribed the membership lists of Walton's Baptist Chapel. An entry dated 2 June 1816 names single woman Sarah TURTLE of Trimley who, after marrying Mr ETHRIDGE, left to join the church in Romney Street, Westminster.

David

Hello David,

Thanks so much for this. What a brilliant bit of sleuthing!

The confusion now comes in that if the husband of Ellizabeth Turtill d. 1828 was William Tuttle, then he cannot be the brother of namesake William Turtill who married Sarah and had my Robert in 1771.

So you have given me a lot more to be researching. Thank you very much indeed.