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Re: St. Thomas' church Skirbeck Quarter Boston
« Reply #81 on: Thursday 01 November 12 14:09 GMT (UK) »
... bearing in mind I don't know Boston at all ...

1861 census has

On London Road
Richard OLDMAN, shoemaker
then
William OLDMAN, grocer
then
Toll House
then (a couple of houses further on)
Railway Road

In 1871, William OLDMAN (still with Richard next door) was a Grocer and Baker, same in 1881.

In 1891, William was still at London Rd, "living on own means".

In 1911, Richard's widow Ellen (apparently the last surviving OLDMAN) was living next door to "Baker's warehouse. :)
Bearing in mind that I lived almost within sight of the bakery (round the bend and down the road a bit  ;D) for the first 21 years of my life, I'm learning new stuff by the minute.

It's interesting that the bakery was there as long ago as 1861, because along London Road, but nearer to town, is a butcher's shop which appears to have been a butcher's shop as far back as 1861.

Percy Kitchen, who owned the building (store/warehouse) to the right of Oldman Cottage, lived there in the 50s/60s IIRC.

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Re: St. Thomas' church Skirbeck Quarter Boston
« Reply #82 on: Thursday 01 November 12 16:31 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much. It would seem very likely that Mr Oldman could well have had something to do with the 'Oldman Terrace' next to the rail line.
If it is the same butchers shop in London Road, it is still going strong. It is now owned by a Mr Carl Dunham, and his wares are first class and much sought after by an admiring public.

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Re: St. Thomas' church Skirbeck Quarter Boston
« Reply #83 on: Thursday 01 November 12 17:01 GMT (UK) »
Frank, the Oldman you refer to was William who owned the bakery, Oldman's Terrace, the paddock alongside the terrace and some other land elsewhere, I have all this in writing from the time of his death in 1896. He passed the bakery on to his nephew Edward Newton sometime before his death but under what arrangements I am yet to find out, if ever. It was also a corn merchants and within my family it has always been rumoured that Edward lost the business either because of drink or due to bad debt from farmer's not paying their bills. Susannah, Edwards wife was my great grandma's sister and William Oldman's wife Sarah was her aunt.
Where any of these people are buried I do not know, I thought I would find gravestones at St Thomas's when I visited but alas no. I am sure you know that Edward Newton's son Edward Oldman Newton and his wife Hannah Maria are buried there as is Walter Broadley's ( my great uncle ) parents George and Betsey.
As a matter of interest William Oldman's brother Richard lived near to him in London Road and he was in business as a cordwainer.
How many times has it been said that we should of asked more about the relatives when we were younger and some of them were still alive. Another problem for me has always been that neither my grandmother or mother who were the links to this area lived very near and in all honesty were not too outgoing so didn't have very strong ties with their relatives in London Road. You have to take into account also that mobilty wasn't so good, my own father didn't have a car until the mid 60's.
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Re: St. Thomas' church Skirbeck Quarter Boston
« Reply #84 on: Thursday 01 November 12 17:06 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much. It would seem very likely that Mr Oldman could well have had something to do with the 'Oldman Terrace' next to the rail line.
If it is the same butchers shop in London Road, it is still going strong. It is now owned by a Mr Carl Dunham, and his wares are first class and much sought after by an admiring public.
Prior to Carl having the shop it was Vaughan's.
I know that late 20s/early 30s it was Doves, but I don't know if Mr Vaughan took over from Mr Dove, or if there was someone else between.

I can second the standard of goods from Carl's, and his sausages have found their way as far afield as south of the Thames and Preston (Lancs).  :)


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Re: St. Thomas' church Skirbeck Quarter Boston
« Reply #85 on: Thursday 01 November 12 17:14 GMT (UK) »
Frank, the Oldman you refer to was William who owned the bakery, Oldman's Terrace, the paddock alongside the terrace and some other land elsewhere, I have all this in writing from the time of his death in 1896.
Where any of these people are buried I do not know, I thought I would find gravestones at St Thomas's when I visited but alas no.
Roger B
Roger B,
William. like a lot of people who lived in the Quarter before St Thomas' was built, is buried in Skirbeck St Nicholas' churchyard.
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=613182&iid=330558
Judging by the name, the previous entry to William's would seem to be a relation.

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Re: St. Thomas' church Skirbeck Quarter Boston
« Reply #86 on: Thursday 01 November 12 17:17 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, Roger, I should have added that I might be able to find more burials for you if you have the quarter and year. As well as the names, of course.  ;D

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Re: St. Thomas' church Skirbeck Quarter Boston
« Reply #87 on: Thursday 01 November 12 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Roger B,
Another question - have you seen the burial register for St Thomas' with the plot numbers given alongside the burial details?
If I've got the correct Edward (buried in 1948) his burial was the second to be conducted at St Thomas' by the 'Rev Bev' - Reverend Beverley. (A wonderful vicar. A very sad day for the parish when he left.)

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Re: St. Thomas' church Skirbeck Quarter Boston
« Reply #88 on: Thursday 01 November 12 20:52 GMT (UK) »
Two observations: 1) I suspect "Railway Road" is that part of Wyberton West Road which ran parallel with the railway after it was diverted in the later 1840s. 2) I am open to contradiction but I am sure Percy Kitchen was in his warehouse earlier than 1950. We and later I bought grain for our poultry from there, and I am sure it was while I was still at St. Thomas' School (left in 1950)
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Re: St. Thomas' church Skirbeck Quarter Boston
« Reply #89 on: Thursday 01 November 12 21:15 GMT (UK) »
I won't contradict you RR, re Percy Kitchen. You go further back than I do.  ;D