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Re: St. Thomas' church Skirbeck Quarter Boston
« Reply #99 on: Monday 05 November 12 16:21 GMT (UK) »
Where you see the cars is where the rail line used to run though to Spalding; to the right of the picture. Where the huge block of flats now stand was where the Oldmans Terrace stood. Newtons Corner and the old Rowell Road are straight across the roundabout. To the right of where the picture was taken (just out of sight) is where they are busily restoring the Railway Pub, originally known as the Railway Tavern (mid 1800s).

I have rather a lot on Mr Newton and one or two of his contemporaries:

Edward Newton and Walter Bradley-employer and employee-were the longest serving churchwardens. The nearest to their length of service was a more recent, Gordon Bourne. Gordon was buried in the churchyard of Saint Thomas's Church on the 4th October 1962.
Edward Newton was elected first as Peoples' Warden in 1913 and re-elected for the next four years. Then, in 1918, after a Mr J Killick, he was appointed Vicar's Warden. And so he remained until 1943, the year after he attained his 90th birthday.
Vicar Hopkins wrote of him: "he leaves behind him a memory of high devotion to duty which will be an inspiration to church people for many years to come" (News Sheet May 1943). Mr Newton died the following December.
Mr Newton certainly doesn't appear to have been the drinking man thought to be by some people. I, personally, don't believe a word of it.
Appointed in 1943 as the next as Vicar's Warden was Walter Broadley. He had served as peoples' Warden since 1930 and continued as Vicar's Warden for the next 15 years making a total of 28 years service in all; two years less that Mr Newton's total in both offices.
Walter died on 27th July 958. The Rev'd A L Beverley wrote of him afterwards: " In the early days of my stay here, he was a real guide and help. I valued his knowledge and his judgement, but what is more I valued his humour. I shall recall two very clear pictures of him. One, when he was clad in cassock and surplice, hymn book in hand, singing with all the force at his command. The other, when he was sitting in the chair in front of his own fire, with his pipe or cigarette 'going well', telling me of Skirbeck Quarter in the days gone by or else 'what we did when we were boys....' (Parish Magazine August 1958).


The Parish Magazine listed the choir for August 1913 as :
T Broadley, L Broadley, H Hackfath, A Hinde, M Cave, I Bedford, W Broadley, Chester, G Goodley, S Brierley, A Clift, R Stringer, A Woods and sixteen un-named boys. W, J and T Broadley were also in the 1909 choir (Parish Magazine).
Longest serving member of the choir by far was Mr Hugh Arthur Merry Cave, of 8 Wyberton West Road, Skirbeck Quarter. His father; Arthur Merry Cave and grandfather were also choir members.

The above is taken from research by Mr George Bagley entered in his book on the history of 'The Quarter', published in 1982 and now out of print, unfortunately.

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Re: St. Thomas' church Skirbeck Quarter Boston
« Reply #100 on: Monday 05 November 12 22:00 GMT (UK) »
Frank, You have come up trumps here, I am so pleased with the information you have gathered for me its one of the best insights to the life and times of some of my relatives that I have had. I put the family history on a software programme and this is where I shall record what you have told me. I have provided family history notes and charts to my brother, sister, and cousins and I shall bring them up to date as well. Reading what I have I can hardly think Edward Newton had a drink problem, more that he was too good mannered and kindly to chase the farmers to pay their bills if indeed the story of him going out of business is actually true. I took photo's of the area you refer to when I came to Boston and know where the flats you refer to are so can picture now the location of Oldmans Terrace.

With reference to Oldman's Terrace and the choir members in 1913, my uncle did a sketch for me from the days he was courting his future wife in the late 1940's when she lodged with Walter Broadley. My great grandmother lived in No1, her neice Flo Townsend in No2, Isacc Francis Bedford who was great grandmothers brother in law in No3 and Walter Broadley her son in law in No4. ( 68 - 74 London Road ). Merry Cave lived in No 2 until his death and rent free thanks to his uncle William Oldman the baker who set up a trust and that was one of the conditions in it. So three of the choir members lived in Oldmans Terrace at one time or another and for all I know my great grandmother could have been in the congregation.
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Re: St. Thomas' church Skirbeck Quarter Boston
« Reply #101 on: Tuesday 06 November 12 15:29 GMT (UK) »
An earlier post on this thread refers to HAM Cave as being referred to by his school contemporary WE Cox, then my form master at Boston Grammar School being nicknamed " HAM" Some parents! A little later in the late 1960s early 70s a Mr. Jack Buff was employed at the church as bell ringer, I have no idea of his proper title. He was the brother of Mrs. E.M. Booth (c1897-1992)  of Wyberton West Road, and like herself first cousin of her husband Charles (1895-1967). They were long time members of the St. Thomas congregation and all three are buried there. I suspect the A. Clift referred to as a member of the choir, was Arthur Clift, "Nosor" the headmaster of St. Thomas' School from pre1war until c1950. His tenure was extended due to the war, and he was around 70 when he finally retired I believe.
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Re: St. Thomas' church Skirbeck Quarter Boston
« Reply #102 on: Tuesday 04 December 12 15:05 GMT (UK) »
I think the Mr Buff you refer to was a Mr Buffam or Buffham. I will take a look.


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« Reply #103 on: Tuesday 04 December 12 15:22 GMT (UK) »
No Frank; Definately Buff, he was the son of Henry Buff and Betsy Ann Bannister. His sister, Emma (1897-1994) married her first cousin Charles Booth (1895-1967) He was the son Betsy Ann's younger sister Charlotte. There is no doubt, if the church records say Buffham or Buffam, then I am afraid they are wrong. He (Jack Buff) died around 1970, and is buried in St. Thomas churchyard, possibly in the same plot as Emma and Charles Booth or an adjoining plot.
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Re: St. Thomas' church Skirbeck Quarter Boston
« Reply #104 on: Tuesday 04 December 12 15:39 GMT (UK) »
Roger,
I feel sure that you must have this one, but just in case.
Charles' burial
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=775688&iid=333806

The only 'Jack' I could find with a death registration in Boston district 1965-1975 was John F Buff in 1965.
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=775688&iid=333797

Emma's burial will be in the current register.

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« Reply #105 on: Tuesday 04 December 12 17:50 GMT (UK) »
I have him recorded as John T Buff Pam, but it seems like the one. I believed the death was later than that. Thanks for transcript of death entry. Roger
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Re: St. Thomas' church Skirbeck Quarter Boston
« Reply #106 on: Tuesday 04 December 12 18:11 GMT (UK) »
FreeBMD has

Deaths Mar 1965
BUFF    John T    75    BOSTON    3B   7

 :D
Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days alive.

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Re: St. Thomas' church Skirbeck Quarter Boston
« Reply #107 on: Tuesday 04 December 12 18:16 GMT (UK) »
That fits well enough with what I remember the funeral was at the end of January /beginning of February 1965, my father caught pneumonia as a result and very nearly caused a second funeral. Turned me into a definite believer in cremation,
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