Louisa and George Biddlecombe in 1871

[Molloyboy]

Thanks for all your efforts Louisa Maud and Devis. Much appreciated.

Yeah sorry. I ommitted to mention that Brill Crescent is in St Pancras.

As I lay in bed last night, it occurred to me, What was a miner doing in St Pancras anyway? Perhaps he was in the capital working on some civil engineering project that required experienced diggers.

In this light, perhaps George and Louisa moved to the next big civil engineering job somewhere in the world. Who knows?

It's a long shot, but...................

Dan

[louisa maud]

I to wondered why he waS in London being a minor, do you know anything about any children they had, that might be a lead.

LM

[Molloyboy]

I to wondered why he waS in London being a minor, do you know anything about any children they had, that might be a lead.

LM

No, I'm afraid not Louisa Maud. The last reference to both of them that I have is the 1861 census, where there are definitely no children.

[louisa maud]

That's a shame, so it looks as if you are beyond help, if you see what I mean

anyway Molloyboy, good luck
LM

[lizdb]

Can we perhaps thry an approach from a different angle?
You say last heard of as witness to nephews wedding.
Did she sign then as Biddlecombe (full name)?

Where was the wedding? What were the names of the nephew and bride?

Second different approach - what was Louisa's maiden name. pre 1860? HAve you found any of her family in 1871 onwards - could she/and/or hubby be with them and wrongly listed with that surname? (though I cant see that happeneing in a whole series of censuses!)

just trying to think (quite a long way) outside the box!

[louisa maud]

Lizdb
I do feel she should be somewhere on the 1871 to be honest, I have tried with just Christian names, and all combinations of including beginning with a P, and that is not a silly suggestion as I have one which they have given a bit of a naughty name afer the 1901 came online, it is clearly what the name should be but transcribed  something else, so the name beginning with a P was not so stupid, ever felt like knocking your head against a wall?, they may of course they emigrated, that is possible I suppose between the wedding and the 1871 unless of course the death found was her.

She was previously Louisa Packer if I am correct taking it from the date that Molloyboy gave

LM

[lizdb]

Aha - now if Molloyboy has the Holborn marriage cert and can confirm what her dad's name and occupation are, then we may be on to something.

If her dad is Joseph, a silk weaver, then here is her family in 1851 and ... she is called Eliza Louisa here.

HO107 1490 756 54
31 Boston place, Marylebone
Joseph Packer 56 Silk weaver bn Reading Berks
Elizabeth 52 bn middx St George
Henry Alonzo Stewart Packer 13 son bn Marylebone
Eliza Louisa Packer 11 bn Marylebone
David Packer 32 visitor bn Berks Reading

and her birth is
Jan/Feb/MAr 1840
Eliza Louisa Packer
Marylebone 1 181

(and out of interest, brother's birth is
Jan/Feb/Mar 1838
Henry Alonzo Stewart Packer
Bethnal Green 2  217)

[lizdb]

And in 1841 - Big age gap suggests possiboe second marriage for Jo or Eliz, or maybe Henry and Eliza(Louisa) are not their children but actually grandchildren??

HO107 677 12
Boston Place Marylebone
Joseph Packer 47 labourer Not bn in county
Elizabeth 40 yes
Jemima 20 yes
Nesta 12 yes
Henry 2 yes
Eliza 1 yes

next door
Henry Packer 17 weaver yes

[louisa maud]

if it is any help I have found her baptism
St Mary, St Marylebone Road
born 04/02/1840
bapt 14/04/1840
father Joseph
Mother Elizabeth
Plus her siblings

But we are no nearer the Biddlecombe's

LM