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Re: Waterloo ancestors
« Reply #36 on: Friday 07 January 11 00:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Martin

My Great, Great, Great Uncle Thomas Sheldon was born in Beeston, Nottinghamshire in 1795.  He was at Waterloo in 1815 in the Royal Horse Artillery as a Gunner & Driver.

My attention to his possible involvement in the battle was drawn to research when I discovered in the transcription of his burial the comment ‘Waterloo Man’, which was confirmed when I looked at the scan of the original document at the Nottingham records office.  Later I also discovered at the National Archives at Kew his discharge papers and requested a copy which confirmed he served at the Battle of Waterloo in 1815.  He also served in France for 3 years 6 months which would of been possibly before but certainly after the battle and also in England and Ireland.  He was medically discharged from the army in 1840 with an ‘exemplary’ record and then worked at the Royal Ordnance Hospital in Woolwich and is showing in the 1841 census as the Driver for the Director General of the Hospital a Capt Webb.  His wife Elizabeth Sheldon was also working at the hospital as an Office Keeper together with their children William, Elizabeth, Robert and Sarah (William and Robert I have reason to believe joined the military together with their oldest son Thomas Sheldon who joined the Royal Horse Artillery as well).  In the 1851 census they are still showing as working at the hospital and Thomas is the driver for the then retired Director General of the hospital Capt Webb the children are not on the census record with them.  In the 1861 Census they have by then moved back to Nottingham and are living in Scont Lane, Arnold, Nottingham and he is listed as a Chelsea Pensioner.  He died and was buried on 18/11/1875 at St Mary’s Church in Arnold, Nottingham but there was no memorial erected by his widow, I have yet to discover the area in the graveyard where he was buried, but have found two articles in the newspapers of the time about his life, his death and funeral.

I have discovered that in the actual roll call taken after the battle when the names were recorded his name was taken and looks like Thomas Shelder.  His name is entered under the list of the ‘Officers & Privates of the Royal Horse & Foot Artillery’ under Lieutenant Coln  A. Dickson’s Troop on page 18 as a Driver at number 813 of the roll call.

I have been in touch with David Milner, a historian for the Association of Friends of the Waterloo Committee.  The president is His Grace The Duke of Wellington KG,LVO,OBE,MC,DL; The Prince of Waterloo. David has the job of compiling any information about the men who fought in the battle and what happened to them afterwards, and as important is discovering where they are buried.  I have given him the most information that he currently has about any of the ordinary soldiers that took part in the battle and also about his life afterwards.

Michael Sheldon


 
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Re: Waterloo ancestors
« Reply #37 on: Friday 07 January 11 19:52 GMT (UK) »
Hello Martin
My Great Great Great Grandfather Was Richard Folke born 1770 in Tenbury Worcestershire he died in Dec 1847 and is buried in Stoke Bliss  (ref Tenbury 18 398)
I have been informed that he was in the Army for 16 years and 114 days
He was in the 3rd Regiment of Foot (Buffs)
It is not known if he was at Waterloo but it is believed he was in the Napoleonic Wars
Any information would be appreciated
Kind regards
Eric White

Eric,
3rd Foot (the Buffs) weren't present at Waterloo, so that's not relevant in this case.
As you say though, they did see plenty of action in the Napoleonic Wars.
Richard Folke died in Dec 1847 so just about lived long enough to claim an MGS medal for his prior service (was only given to veterans who were still alive to claim it).
Richard Folk (as spelled on the roll) - 2 clasp medal for Talavera and Pyrenees.
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Re: Waterloo ancestors
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 09 January 11 16:46 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Neil
Good of you to take the time and check for me.
Once again thanks
Kind regards
Eric White

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Re: Waterloo ancestors
« Reply #39 on: Monday 10 January 11 15:00 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find out more about Kenneth Fowler whose name appears on the Waterloo medal roll. He was in Capt Robert Winchester's company of 92nd Highland regiment. His discharge papers are not on FindMyPast military records, nor are those of my 3 x gr grandfather also Kenneth Fowler who served in Royal Artllery. I believe the "Waterloo" Kenneth may be the son of my ancestor, who had a son called Kenneth born in 1798.   
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Re: Waterloo ancestors
« Reply #40 on: Monday 31 January 11 21:52 GMT (UK) »
I have been researching the history of my Gt Gt Gt grandfather DAVID SIMPSON.
I discovered a book written by a local minister of the area where my ancestor lived in which he talked about, amongst many other ancestors,  David Simpson. David joined the army c1805 and was supposed to have fought at the Battle of Waterloo. He had joined along with two friends namely Alexander Norris and Thomas Wallace.
I have been able to confirm a David Simpson who was in the Royal Horse Artillery received a Waterloo Medal but as yet it has not been confirmed it is my David Simpson. I have confirmed Alex Norris was in the Royal Horse Artillery.
All three returned from the army.
A story recounted in the book "Families of Ballyrashane" says that when David was going away to the army, on one occasion, he was speaking to a Mrs Kilpatrick who asked him to hold her baby while she got some water. She remarked in jest "Davy she might be your wife yet". When he did return he did marry her although she was 25 years younger than him...... my gt gt gt grandmother Sarah!

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Re: Waterloo ancestors
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 01 February 11 00:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi doire

There is a David Simpson showing in the Waterloo medal roll as serving as a Gunner under Lt.Colonel R. Bull's Troop and is showing on page 21 at number 1090 of the original roll call.

There is no Alexander Norris listed, but there are 4 people in the roll call called Thomas Wallace but none served in the same troop at David Simpson.
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Re: Waterloo ancestors
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 01 February 11 09:46 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your info particularily the stuff about Thomas Wallace. I have Alex Norris' discharge papers from the Royal Artillery 2nd Battalion as a Gummer/Driver dated 1834 after over 29 years service. He enlisted on 25th April 1805 none of which helps find anything more about David Simpson! At least it gives me a stronger reason to believe the David in the medal roll is my gt gt gt grandfather.
Can anyone let me know how I can find out if he got a pension. He lived in Ballyrashane/Baldershane, Coleraine in N Ireland. I know he was still alive in 1851 so he should have had a pension.
Many thanks.

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Re: Waterloo ancestors
« Reply #43 on: Monday 21 February 11 03:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi Martin, are you still interested in Waterloo participants. I have information and a medal for Trooper Robert Nutter of the RHG if you would care to correspond with me.
kind regards Fred ..

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Re: Waterloo ancestors
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 22 February 11 17:46 GMT (UK) »
If you have any ancestors who fought at Waterloo (or you wonder if they might have done!) I'd be very interested to hear from you.

I keep a database of all BRITISH combatants and am always looking for more data to add.

Many thanks

Martin Aaron

Hi  Martin This is not actually about an ancestor because mine ,who was with the 2nd Battallion,5th of Foot ( fought at Bussaco) was moved to the Royal Veterens Battalion in 1812 due to foot infection/disease,name, ( George Fricker),and totally discharged in September 1814 at Plymouth.
Had he not had the foot disease and became a Chelsea Pensioner,I have often wondered  if would have fought at Waterloo.
Are you able to tell me if the 2nd Battallion,5th of Foot fought at Waterloo ?
I am very grateful for your time.
Thank you,
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