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Trail gone cold
« on: Monday 02 March 09 19:37 GMT (UK) »
Willie Cundy was born 5 November 1867 in Moulton, Spalding, Lincolnshire to Harriet Cundy. He appears on the 1871 and 1881 Census as Grandson to the head of household Maria Cundy. I have been unable to find anything after that census - can you please help

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Re: Trail gone cold
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 March 09 19:52 GMT (UK) »


Hello Helen   :)

Welcome to Rootschat   ;D

Do you know anything more about  him ?  Did he marry and have any children ?
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: Trail gone cold
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 March 09 20:03 GMT (UK) »
Welcome Steve

I think I've found him in 1901 married to Mary E age 26 born Lutton, it gives his age as 30
but has a daughter called Harriet (L) and was born in Whaplode. He's an ag lab and lives at
Long sutton Road , Long Sutton. Think the Ref is RG13/3036 f68 pg 135 (it's difficult to tell the page nos
properly on the G******ist.co.uk)

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Re: Trail gone cold
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 March 09 20:04 GMT (UK) »
oops forgot to mention , he also has a son Alfred W age 2 months.

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Re: Trail gone cold
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 March 09 20:13 GMT (UK) »


Hello both   :D

Yes, UKD  -  I found that too, whcih was why I asked whether Helen knew any more about him   :D

Here's the entry:

1901
RG13.  P. 3036  Fol. 68  Pg. 13


Long Sutton Road, Gedney

CUNDY
William  Head  M  35  Ordinary Ag Lab  B.  Lincs  Whaplode
Mary E  Wife  M  26                               B. Lincs. Lulton
Harriet L  Dau  2
Alfred W  Son  2 mths.

both children born Gedney Marsh

I liked the eldest daughter being Harriett  - which obviously struck you, too, UKD   :D  :D   

This looks like their marriage :

Q2 1895 Holbeach. Vol 7a  Pg. 844  William Cundy
Maria Elizabeth A Rudley on the page.

I'm afraid I cant see him in 1891   :-\
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: Trail gone cold
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 March 09 20:14 GMT (UK) »
Welcome Steve

I think I've found him in 1901 married to Mary E age 26 born Lutton, it gives his age as 30
but has a daughter called Harriet (L) and was born in Whaplode. He's an ag lab and lives at
Long sutton Road , Long Sutton. Think the Ref is RG13/3036 f68 pg 135 (it's difficult to tell the page nos
properly on the G******ist.co.uk)

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UKD


Hi

This William Cundy's age is actually given as 35 in 1901.  It seems to me that rather than being the same person as Willie b 1867, he's more likely to be the child enumerated in 1871 as William Cundy, 5, b Whaplode - son of Alfred and Sarah E: RG10/3332/23/3.

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Trail gone cold
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 March 09 20:29 GMT (UK) »
Hmmm...having said what I said above, there is another William Cundy b Whaplode who gives his age as 26 in 1891 and 35 in 1901 (on both occasions married to a Betsy/Betsey).

1891: RG12/2608/84/7 (Groom & gardener)
1901: RG13/3073/20/11 (Draper's traveller)

So maybe this is the son of Alfred & Sarah, and the other one's Willie? Or vice versa...
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Trail gone cold
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 March 09 20:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi AVM
Hmmm...having said what I said above, there is another William Cundy b Whaplode who gives his age as 26 in 1891 and 35 in 1901 (on both occasions married to a Betsy/Betsey).

1891: RG12/2608/84/7 (Groom & gardener)
1901: RG13/3073/20/11 (Draper's traveller)

So maybe this is the son of Alfred & Sarah, and the other one's Willie?


Just what I was thinking too. I've double checked the image on the website I use
and the one I listed earlier does say 35 but was transcribed as 30.

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Re: Trail gone cold
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 March 09 20:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Anna   -   there's a William B. 1866 Whaplode on 1891 and 1901  -  married to Betsy - daughter Alice ???  

So if the original one, married to Maria (Mary ) E named his son after his father - maybe the one married to Betty is he whom we seek ?

The William born Whaplode is, in 1881, an apprentice baker in Gedney........


SORRY  _  typed and "stuck in the treacle"   :-\
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott