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Re: Disturbing photograph
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 01 March 09 21:40 GMT (UK) »
OK, enough for me.
I'm not following this thread any more.

Each to their own......

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Re: Disturbing photograph
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 01 March 09 21:43 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, Dave - just thought it was a bit sad some of the terms he used. Please don't be offended.
I'll shut up now :)

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Re: Disturbing photograph
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 01 March 09 21:45 GMT (UK) »






Have to say I agree with Dave on this one .. it isn't bedtime viewing and I daren't look at the latest links .. !  :-\
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Re: Disturbing photograph
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 01 March 09 21:48 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear, I didn't look at any links - sorry, everyone :-[
just thought the way he expressed himself was a bit off - - apologies - I'lll delete the post.


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Re: Disturbing photograph
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 01 March 09 21:53 GMT (UK) »
Yes, well, I purposely did not include a link to my opening post so that people would have to do a bit more than click to see.  The subject was made clear, no need for anyone to look, and no need for anyone to announce they're not going to look either.
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Re: Disturbing photograph
« Reply #14 on: Monday 02 March 09 10:52 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Pels,
I recall a similar thread but can't find it.

Your link sums it up tho.

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Is it this one?
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Re: Disturbing photograph
« Reply #15 on: Monday 02 March 09 11:42 GMT (UK) »
Of course, nowadays if a baby is stillborn, or dies in hospital the parents quite often take photographs.

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Re: Disturbing photograph
« Reply #16 on: Monday 02 March 09 11:48 GMT (UK) »
Maybe I'm coming from a different view point.
Due to unforeseen circumstances our son was "born" (there's a reason for the quotes but not relevant to discuss here, and he wasn't a still birth either) at only 20 weeks. Needless to say he didn't survive.
I have pictures of my child. I treasure them. My family and close friends have seen them and also treasure them.
For the briefest moment he was part of our family and there is no reason he should be forgotten or his memory erased.

I didn't see the original pictures referred to in the first post, but the one on the guardian link - I don't see a problem with.
Maybe modern society in general isn't able to cope with death any more and therefore see it as something that shouldn't be discussed or viewed.
I'd rather see a treasured photograph of a dead, but loved, child than see pictures of war (which is far more horrific, yet accepted as "normal").
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Re: Disturbing photograph
« Reply #17 on: Monday 02 March 09 14:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi JustKia,
When my sister-in-law had a still born child at over seven months into her pregnancy, she comforted herself through her loss by various things to remember Louise - they even 'adopted' a child in India who they send money to support through school, etc. All these things helped her, and her husband, through their tragic loss.  I think it was probably harder for those outside the direct family to understand these things, than for those closer to her.
You're quite right that today often death is hidden away (good in some ways, but certainly not in others); we're expected to grieve in private and hold things in a bit. I wonder sometimes if other cultures deal with loss in a better way than we do.
In Victorian society death was always with them and I think the bit on the site (the one I did check carefully) expressed their reasons quite clearly - and that is the reason I included it:

"What a comfort it is to possess the image of those who are removed from our site. We may raise an image of them in our minds but that has no the tangibility of one we can see with our bodily eyes."

Flora A Windeyer in a letter to Rev. John Blomfield, Nov 1870.

Maybe the medical authorities (midwives, etc) are starting to realise more now that grief is much better expressed in a natural way, rather than in the closed way of past decades. Perhaps the Victorians weren't quite as we picture in some respects. We all need to deal with our grief in the way that is right for us; and as we all different we will do this in different ways.
Thank you for sharing this with us JustKia - I don't think any of us who hasn't lost a child can fully understand this awful loss. May your photos of your child continue to bring you much happiness and comfort.
Take care,
Paulene :)