Author Topic: John Williams - Sarah Leonard (Read 5672 times)

Valley · « **Reply #18 on:** Saturday 11 April 09 13:01 BST (UK) »

Hi Gadget

Re you comment about Chirk Records John Williams c1804 Married Sarah Roberts also of chirk Green 1826 Sarah Roberts was born c1804. We know her mother was Mary Roberts but not her father I cant find a marriage.
Also stuck with John Williams 1804 who his parents were we are sure he had a brother called Isaac c1804 all state from Chirk any possibily of some help with this please.

Regards and
Happy Easter
Val

Gadget · « **Reply #19 on:** Sunday 12 April 09 07:38 BST (UK) »

Hi Val

ARe these a different family?

If Sarah Roberts' mother was Mary Roberts, it might well be that Mary wasn't married.

If I get time, I'll check later today to see if my records have them. Otherwise it will have to be in a week's time. I'm pretty busy at the moment.

Did you get the marriage cert :

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March q, 1858, Liverpool v 8b page 246

Gadget

Valley · « **Reply #20 on:** Sunday 12 April 09 09:43 BST (UK) »

Hi
No same famly John Williams born c1804 was John Isaac 1859 Ballarat Grandfather he married a girl called Sarah Roberts in c1826 at Chirk Green. We know the mother was Mary Roberts as she was listed as on 1851 Wales cencus as 76 a widow living with John and Sarah. John and Sarah had 8 children including John Williams who married Sarah Leonard and father and mother of John Isaac Williams who married Elizabeth Sharpe. Did not need cert in the end as all fell into place with a bit of help from feathertail who had a lot of info and as myself had and all matched up. We are stuck with John Williams and Sarah Roberts though.

Also have you heard of a Bron Heilick Hall near Chirk as this was said to have belonged to the Williams Family.

Thanks
Val

Gadget · « **Reply #21 on:** Sunday 12 April 09 10:40 BST (UK) »

No Hall by that name in the Chirk area - do you mean Brynkinallt?

Gadget

Valley · « **Reply #22 on:** Sunday 12 April 09 11:48 BST (UK) »

Hi
It could be but in document I have its written as I have it but that could be wrong. It was a large old Regency building up a long drive.

Val

Gadget · « **Reply #23 on:** Sunday 12 April 09 11:52 BST (UK) »

It is likely to be Brynkinalt, although it is older than Regency. Apart from Chirk Castle and New Hall, there aren't any other buildings in Chirk which match your description.

I was born and grew up in the area for the first 18 years of my life and visited my parents regularly until my mother died 10 years ago.

It was owned by the Trevors:

http://www.brynkinalt.co.uk/the_estate/the_hall.html

Gadget

Valley · « **Reply #24 on:** Sunday 12 April 09 12:05 BST (UK) »

Hi
Dont think that would have it looks a bit grand for us maybe Will have to gointo this one a bit further just looked at the document and says there was a fire at some point not sure if this burnt down or part of it. still states Bron Heilick

Val

Gadget · « **Reply #25 on:** Sunday 12 April 09 12:26 BST (UK) »

Is it possible for you to send me the document - I can PM you my e-mail address.

Gadget

Valley · « **Reply #26 on:** Sunday 12 April 09 12:38 BST (UK) »

Hi
I will scan it for yo but cant do until Tuesday as not got a working printer/scanner at the moment. will have to do at work.
As there were 8 children was just looking to see if I could find a williams / Trevor marriage as there were 7 girls
Elizabeth
Emma
Harriett
Mary
Ann
Eliza and
Jane

Val

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