LEWES - St John Sub Castro

[Chris in 1066Land]

Its him again

Spotted these as well in Sub Castro Baptisms

1821 May 27, Philipps Ann Maria, f, Philip & Eve Ann, OTP, Bricklayer
1824 May 16, Phillips Caroline, f, Phillip & Eve Anne, OTP, Bricklayer
1826 Feb 26, Phillips Phillip, m, Phillip & Ann, OTP, Bricklayer
1828 Feb 17, Phillips Eliza, f, Phillip & Ann, OTP, Bricklayer
1831 Nov 20, Phillips Eleanor, f, dau of Philip & Ann, OTP, Brick Maker
1834 Apr 6, Phillips Rhoda, f, dau of Phillip & Ann, OTP, Brick Layer
1837 Mch 5, Phillips Martha, f, dau of Philip & Ann, OTP, Black Smith
1842 Sep 18, Phillips George, m, son of Philip & Anne, Priory St, Brick Layer   
Dont know hoe many of them are yours

[Ann from Sussex]

Thanks very much for your invaluable help again Chris. So...was she LOWER or LEWER, I wonder? At least it has given me another line of enquiry to pursue. Interesting that she wasn't baptised until 1805 as her gravestone in St John sub Castro churchyard gives her birthdate as 2nd October 1798.

All those Phillips baptisms are mine - you did list them on here for me a while back. Caroline b.1824 was my 2xgreat grandmother.

Eve's husband Philip was baptised at St Thomas, Cliffe in 1800.

Thanks again.

Ann

[BeccaK]

Hi Chris,

I'm new to this forum, though I've been doing FH for about eight years now.

I spotted your amazing efforts with the St John sub Castro records and wonder if you can help me.

I have a STANFORD family who I pick up for definite in 1813 in Newhaven, when a tailor named Frederick and his wife Selina had a child (also Frederick) baptised. I know from the birth certificate of the last child, born in 1838, that Selina's maiden name was MARKWICK.

According to the 1851 census the elder Frederick was born in the parish of All Saints, Lewes.

I have never managed to find either his baptism or Selina's. I think they married in St John sub Castro on 10 Feb 1812, but this only an IGI record and I couldn't find it when I looked at the film some years ago.

I would be very, very grateful for any STANFORD information you can extract from your records, as I am trying to fit the family together. I know there was a George Stanford around at this time who was a builder, and some of the family was non-conformist.

Likewise, if you can tell me anything about Selina MARKWICK I'd be delighted:I have a mass of MARKWICK information (as I descend from another branch of it too), and the family has been extensively researched by several people, but so far Selina seems to have sprung out of thin air.

Yours hopefully,
BeccaK

[sillgen]

Hi Ann
Welcome to rootschat.  According to the Sussex Marriage Index Frederick Stanford married Eleanor Markwick at St John sub Castro on the date you mention.  The witnesses were Mary Markwick and Richd Burfield.     I suppose it could be a mistranscription.   You would need to look at the original.
The only Selina Markwick on the index marries John Fisher in Uckfield on 11th July 1831.
Chris has not been very active on the board recently as he is busy with other things but he might pick this up as he is still a moderator for the Sussex board.
Andrea

[sillgen]

I see that in 1841 his wife is Selina but by 1851 it is Mary.  They are in Uckfield both times so there is obviously a family link there.
Have you found Selina's death?
Andrea

[BeccaK]

Hi, and thanks for the verification of the marriage: I'm pretty sure that's the same one. The Selina MARKWICK who you have marrying in Uckfield in 1831 had her marriage witnessed by one of Frederick's daughters (Rebecca STANFORD): there was a close connection between these two families: one of Frederick's grandsons married a MARKWICK grand-daughter.

Frederick did remarry, to Mary HARVEY in Brighton about a month before the 1851 census.

I'd still be grateful for STANFORD info from Lewes: I'm pretty sure this is where Frederick was from.

Thanks for your help,
BeccaK

[sillgen]

I had a loom to see if there were any suitable candidtes for Frederick's parents marrying in Lewes on the SMI
George  28+ carpenter of All Saints Lewes to Sarah Head 25+ Buxted
Licence 28 Jan 1790  Marriage 29 Jan 1790 at Buxted

Thomas to Ann Diplock 23 Aug 1792 at St John Southover, Lewes

There were several females too.
Have you looked at the Sussex Family History group site - www.sfhg.org.uk ?  They have a lot of transcripts for sale.    There is another site that Kerryb, one of the Sussex rootschatters, often recommends - it has lots of parish records on it but my mind has gone blank about what it is!  www.familyhistoryonline.net I think
Andrea

[BeccaK]

Thanks for that, Andrea.

I now have two options for Frederick's parents - George and Sarah, or Edward and Sally (nee Cooper).

I think my next move is contact SFHG and see if I can find Frederick's baptism that way.

BeccaK

[zal]

HI CHRIS    I HAVE SEVERAL ANCESTORS BURIED IN THE CHURCH YARD BUT I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND THEM HAS THEY DO NOT HAVE HEAD STONES  THE ONES I'M LOOKING FOR AT THE MO IS BENJAMIN CLARK  BORN LEWES 1866 DIED 1932  HIS FIRST WIFE ELIZABETH  NEE FUNNELL BORN 1867 LEWES DIED 1914  I KNOW BEN IS BURIED THERE  BUT NOT SURE ABT HIS WIFE  ALSO MARTHA LUCAS NEE THORPE BORN LEWES DIED 1932 LEWES ALSO BELIEVED TO BE BURIED THERE  AND WILLIAM CLARK  ABT 1910 FATHER OF BENJAMIN  IS THERE A POSS YOU COULD LOOK THESE UP FOR ME TO COMFIRM ALSO DO YOU STILL SUPPLY THE PLAN OF THE CHURCH YARD  I WOULD APPRICIATE ANY INFO YOU MAY HAVE  KIND REGARDS CHRIS