john oliver/eliz nixon castleton

[audrey]

going off the 1841 census posted by Terry I would say this is yours

John Oliver 12/8/1787  Castelton Rox
father John Oliver
mother Margret Armstrong

Audrey

[Piglet01]

Hello

An IGI search brings up 3 female children for Henry Oliver and Agnes Nichoson...  There are anomalies which sometime ignore males.

 1. HELEN OLIVER Birth: 28 SEP 1838 Ewes, Dumfries, Scotland
 2. ELIZABETH OLIVER Birth: 07 FEB 1840 Ewes, Dumfries, Scotland
 2. JANE OLIVER Birth: 18 JAN 1845 Ewes, Dumfries, Scotland 

Regards,   Steve

[Sec of Comms]

Audrey, Steve,
Thanks again. There is quite a discrepancy between the John recorded as 60 in the 1941 census and the birth-date of 1787 you mention Audrey. Were the recorders as rough and ready as that? (It would also mean he was just 18 when first child arrived, but quite possible no doubt.)

Jane is my ancestor and I think there was only one younger boy, who came after her.

Excuse my ignorance, but what is IGI?

Regards

Alan

[audrey]

Hannah Armstrong age 13 in 1841 census above appears to be
Hannah Armstrong born 6/1/1828 to
William Armstrong and Margret Telfer, this William is the brother of Margret Armstrong married to John Oliver all born Castleton

Audrey

[Piglet01]

Hello Alan

I believe that every Family Historian should be aware of the following:

To use the IGI - www.familysearch.org  to search for all children born to the same parents go to:

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

1.  Enter father and mothers names in the 2 right hand boxes (sometimes best to have mothers first name only)
2.  'Event' select 'birth/christening'
3.  'Year' - select - type 'marriage year date if known '
4.  'Year range' -  enter - '+ or - 20 years'
5.  'Region' enter 'British Isles'
6.  Country - enter 'Scotland'
7.  County - enter - 'Roxburgh'                 (assumes this is the county you’re searching in - or leave all counties)

*   Press enter and hopefully up will come a list   :O)


A site which comprehensively explains about batch numbers etc is:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm#PageTitle

Give it a try - it's good for dates up to 1875.  Always double check that the batch no. is the same for all of the children.  Before 1855 you'll sometimes come up with only the father on an OPR - after 1855 you should have both parents always.  There are also anomalies in that sometimes only children of one gender will show.....  Also be aware of the 2 types of entries - 'extracted' are from the records whilst 'submitted' are submitted by rsearchers and are sometimes wildly inaccurate...........

Good luck.

 Regards,    Steve    :O)

[terry h]

There is quite a discrepancy between the John recorded as 60 in the 1841 census and the birth-date of 1787 you mention Audrey. Were the recorders as rough and ready as that? (It would also mean he was just 18 when first child arrived, but quite possible no doubt.)

In1841 John Oliver is aged 60 (which means anything from 60 to 64) therefore I would have expected a birth year between 1777 and 1781)   If John's parents were John and Margaret you would expect his first son to be named John and second daughter to be named Margaret (not 100% but pretty much the norm in Scotland)

Terry

[mandycooky]

hi terri
im bk again i has been along while since ive been on line . hope your keeping well. i have quite a bit info on the oliver and also an email addy for a lady in denver who maybe has the same family . i still have this info if you need it . alan  i have this info if you would like it

[Sec of Comms]

Hi mandycooky,
Yes, please. What is the way to do this? (And thanks again steve and terry).

regards,

alan

[mandycooky]

hi im having same problem with my oliver,s too !!!! my oliver,s are thomas who married a elizabeth best who was his second wife. i cant get anything on his first wife all i have is that she was born in kelso no date but a death date of 1838 buried here in newcastle upon tyne (westgate)