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Re: Confused - Cant find them ??
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 28 February 09 02:23 GMT (UK) »
There are four persons named Joseph PRIEST in Quarry Bank in the 1901 census, and many more in Rowley Regis.  I can see no immediate connexion.  There are no Joseph PRIESTLYs or Joseph PRIESTLEYs in either place.

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Re: Confused - Cant find them ??
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 28 February 09 07:36 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for looking JAP.

Ive just done a free BMD check. Its shows the following:

Joseph Priest marriage to either a Ellen or Florrie Homer in March 1900 at Dudley. There also a Joseph Thomas Priest marriage to a Esther Homer at Dudley Reg District in Sept 1901.

Any connection ??

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Re: Confused - Cant find them ??
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 28 February 09 07:43 GMT (UK) »
Me again.
Just done a check of the 1881 and guess who living 3 doors away from Sarah and Clara:

Daniel HOMER   Head   M   Male   42   Kingswinford, Stafford, England   Chain Maker     
Harriet HOMER   Wife   M   Female   42   Kingswinford, Stafford, England       
John HOMER   Son   U   Male   22   Kingswinford, Stafford, England   Striker On Chain     
James HOMER   Son   U   Male   14   Kingswinford, Stafford, England   Coal Miner     
Daniel HOMER   Son      Male   11   Kingswinford, Stafford, England   Scholar     
Martha HOMER   Daur      Female   8   Kingswinford, Stafford, England   Scholar     
Benjamin HOMER   Son      Male   5   Kingswinford, Stafford, England   Scholar     
Minney HOMER   Daur      Female   4   Kingswinford, Stafford, England       
Esther HOMER   Daur      Female   2   Kingswinford, Stafford, England   

Could this be the Ester who marries Joseph Priest ?? Trouble is Daniel, Esther father is NOT on my tree but there's a defo connection. Can anyone have a look through the Census' for Daniel to find out who his father was ?? I can then add them to my tree and get a better idea if its the right one.

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James

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Re: Confused - Cant find them ??
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 28 February 09 08:25 GMT (UK) »
James,

For what it's worth, Daniel b ca 1839 Kingswinford seems to be the son of a William HOMER & a Nancy.

It seems likely that all the HOMERs in the area were related in some way.

How will this help in the search for Sarah BROOKS in 1891?

JAP
PS: Just for information, it seems that it was Ellen HOMER who m Edward RYDER.  In 1901, Edward RYDER, wife Ellen, and baby Edward are living in Rowley Regis, all born Rowley Regis.


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Re: Confused - Cant find them ??
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 28 February 09 08:44 GMT (UK) »
It all helps to build the picture of Sarah. Maybe new surnames that have a connection and maybe find the connection with the family that maybe looking after her in 1891 or with Elijah and Clara.

Just looking, i have William and Nancy on my tree, brother to Benjamin, Sarah grandfather BUT i have him being boen c 1827 which would make him about 12/13 when Daniel was born. Is this what you have or have i messed up the dates ?
Thanks again for your help JAP.

James

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Re: Confused - Cant find them ??
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 28 February 09 09:32 GMT (UK) »
The Daniel HOMER b ca 1839 is, in 1851, with parents William b ca 1798, Nancy b ca 1798, and siblings Samuel b ca 1828, Shederick b ca 1831 and John b ca 1836 - all born Kingswinford.

A different William and Nancy - though they might be the parents of the 1827 William.

The family in 1841 - William 40, Nancy 40, Joseph 15, William 14, Samuel 12, Benjamin 10, Sath 7, John 5, Daniel 2

JAP
PS: Have you yet investigated whether there are any Stourbridge Poor Law Union records.

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Re: Confused - Cant find them ??
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 28 February 09 09:36 GMT (UK) »
Cant find anhthing online for the poor records of Stourbridge and i live in the South East so no chance of visiting the record office. I'll keep looking though.

Thanks for that info on Daniel.

James

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Re: Confused - Cant find them ??
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 28 February 09 10:39 GMT (UK) »
James,

I don't know how much you know about Stourbridge, but although it is now part of Dudley Borough Council, and in the West Midlands, historically it was part of Worcestershire so it is likely that any surviving poor law records will be kept at Worcestershire Record Office.

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« Reply #35 on: Saturday 28 February 09 13:18 GMT (UK) »
James, Just a reminder of reply #11.

  ...  I do not know what the Workhouse/Poor Law records for Kingswinford are like but if you Google for (say)
workhouse + kingswinford
you will get lots of hits including the following:
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Stourbridge/Stourbridge.shtml

You could also do a RootsChat search using appropriate terms to see whether these particular records might have been discussed in other threads.  ... 

The site quoted above:
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Stourbridge/Stourbridge.shtml
states:
Records
* Staffordshire Record Office, Eastgate Street, Stafford, ST16 2LZ. Holdings include: Guardians' minute books (1836-1929); Pauper classification books (1847-1907); Letter books (1836-98); etc.


And links to:
http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/leisure/archives/

From there, there is a link to:
http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/leisure/archives/sro/
which has an online catalogue and which lists an email contact address.

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JAP