James Waddell, Ayrshire *completed*

[mayoevie]

Carole,

You have hit the bullseye.  How did you do it?
 I have just arrived home after a long day and the marriage certificate is here at last.
If I was near you now I would cover you with kisses. How can I thank you?

James Waddle age 24 bachelor and Margaret Henderson age 25 widow, were married according to  the rites of the Catholic Church at St. Francis of Assisi in the district of Kensington, on the 16th of November 1878. 
Grooms father William Waddle, foreman of works.
Brides father William Brady, gardener.

A thousand thanks to you and Monica, and all you rootschatters, and to Emma for introducing me to RootsChat.

Also today I got the birth record of their first child, a daughter, on 28th November 1879 in Dublin. The name is spelled Waddell. 

 Eve

[CaroleW]

Hi Eve

I'm really glad I was able to help and relieved it turned out to be the right certificate

So James was b around 1852/53 - are you certain he was b Ayrshire

[mayoevie]

Hi Carole,
Thanks for your quick reply.
I can't be certain as the only information I have is family lore, but no other place was mentioned.
 Eve

[MonicaL]

Great result! Well done Carol 

Monica

[CaroleW]

Hi

Thanks Monica. 

Eve - neither the Scottish 1861 or 1871 has a James Wad** b Ayrshire in that age range.

I've checked England and there is a James Waddell b 1852 Greenock in lodgings in Gloucester in 1871.  Funnily enough - there are 2 other lodgers in the same place both b Ayrshire and they are in the same trade as James - wine and spirits shopman

What was James occupation on his marriage cert

[mayoevie]

Hi Carole,
On the marriage cert he is a Turner, and the same on the birth cert of first child.
On the birth cert  of second child he is a farmer (living in a slum in Dublin city centre)
On his death cert he is a painter.
I have just noticed on one of Monica's posts a census with a William, a turner, born in Ireland. Wonder if he could be the same William?

[MonicaL]

I'm still not seeing much more than that family. This is their entry in 1871:

Wm Waddel 45, slate ??, b. Ireland
Jane Waddel 46, b. Ireland
James Waddel 20, turner, b. Ireland
William Waddel 18, Mauchline, Ayrshire
Agnes Waddel 16, Mauchline, Ayrshire
Agnes Waddel 6, Mauchline, Ayrshire ...I think this has been mistranscribed. There is an Andrew Waddle showing as born on 26 FEB 1865 in Mauchline to a William and a Jane TAIT.

Address: Cross, Mauchline

Monica

ADDED: If it does turn out to be the right family, that birth cert. for Andrew should include details on place and date of parents' marriage in Ireland.

[CaroleW]

This is the 1871 entry Monica found for Mauchline Ayrshire

William Waddel 45  stone?? b Ireland
Jane  46  b Ireland
James   20  occ Turner b Ireland
William  18  b Mauchline Ayrshire
Agnes  16  b Mauchline
Agnes   6 son - I wonder if this is meant to be Angus  b Mauchline
Mauchline; ED: 6; Page:  9; Line: 20

Sorry Monica - Rootschat took so long to post that we crossed

[mayoevie]

hi Monica,
If the age is correct on the 2 certs I have, James was born 1854-1855.
He died in June 1891 aged 36.