Where would I start, if I can? (post in 3 posts)

[Daisy Loo]

I feel so frustrated that I can't help look!  You have all found so much...and I'm sitting on the edge of my chair!  Margaret's grandson hasn't come online yet  ...pops up online whenever I am busy, and stuck into something, and then when I want him 

[J.J.]

Sorry, we are having fun, aren't we... Maybe you could piece it all together in to order...
oh, wait..that's the hard part and you are already a little miffed at Gson...

Early photos of Elora town
http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/ENGLISH/exhibits/connon/elora.htm
There may be something in the Vickers file on here:
http://www.wcm.on.ca/archives_family-r.php
( altho we may have already seen it all online)
 

and Ohhhh....The Vickers connection
for the descendants of Francis and Mary Vickers of South Elmsall, Yorkshire, and Elora, Ontario
http://204.9.225.200/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=366228&disp=The+Vickers+connection
but where available, only a few were made...

[Daisy Loo]

So, for Margaret, we have her in 1891, living in the Village of Elors, then in 1911, she's living in Grey South?
what's the distance between these two places?

[Daisy Loo]

Okay, I have just trawled the 1901 census for Elors Village, and for Sullivan (which in 1901, was North grey, not South) and not a single whisper of a sign of Margaret


On an offside, I am amazed at how many adopted children there were, and all to people who already had a few kids.  Why would this be? 

Added: there was a family of McIntosh'es in Sullivan...A Donald (b.1824) and a Mary (b.1834) - children, Cameron & Christina
Next door to them, was Alex (b.1872)  with wife and son, Next door to that was: mother Ann McIntosh (b.1844), and 3 sons, John Thomas & Hugh

[KarenM]

So, for Margaret, we have her in 1891, living in the Village of Elors, then in 1911, she's living in Grey South?
what's the distance between these two places?

It's about an hour and 1/2 todays driving north, right up Hwy. #6

Karen

[Daisy Loo]

Thanks Karen 

I'm having a rummage around regarding the adoptions.  I've trawled through many English census's, and have never seen the amount of adopted children like there were in these census's.

Were there centre's for adoption in Canada back then?  Or would it be families taking in children of friends and relatives.  Were the adoptions legal and formal?  It seems strange, that all these children kept their own names, as well as some of them, having the family name added on.


As an extra, I have looked up another Canadian's family tree on An*****y regarding Margaret, and though she has no details whatsoever on her...she is named in full as Margaret Ross Vickers Bryans.  What a name.  (still no sign of the grandson!)

[polarbear]

A few more tidbits....

Just noted that on Jane's marriage she gives her religion as Presbyterian. I wonder about a possible baptism for Christina in a church of that religion? Does Elora have one? (still assuming she was born there but see below).

I checked births registered as 'female' 1869-1871 with no luck....all children had 2 parents.

1871 Census Elora...

Francis Vickers 45 Widower Hotel Keeper b. England
Mary Jane Vickers 19 b. Ontario

plus 2 apparently unrelated males, perhaps patrons?

I didn't find a Jane McIntosh in the town.

Polarbear

[J.J.]

Oh, good, more mystery then....?

Mary Jane was daughter from first marriage to Maria...married John Johns

[Daisy Loo]

On the flickr link that Annie gave, of the pics of Elora...there was a Knox Presbytarian Church, but it had a date of 1873 on it, which would be a bit late for Christina's birth wouldn't it?

added: scratch the above date of 1873...just gone on the website for Knox Church, and it was built in 1837...as a small log church!