Where would I start, if I can? (post in 3 posts)

[Daisy Loo]

Is the general thought then, that Francis & Jane Vickers are Christina's parents?  and Christine is the Tina, on the 1881 census...aged 11, making her born in 1870, (2 years prior to marriage of parents?)

Added: And if Jane had Christina by another man, Christina could be McIntosh?  Or perhaps Christina just used that name for the child...her own mother's maiden name...





I am going offline for a while...can anyone explain to me the connections?  I must be a bit slow!  I'll be back on as soon as kids in bed
This really is fascinating...I will have to relate what you have found to Margaret's grandchildren...they will be amazed.

[J.J.]

McIntosh was Jane's middle name....so if the babe was born before wedlock, might have been called McIntosh first, then changed name to father's after marriage...Is it too simplified, or too complicated...I'm not sure, hehe.

and I had only glanced at the 1881 image and assumed the eldest was on top that's why i didn't catch the Trina...Just like at first glance I though I saw Maynard instead of Margaret McIntosh on the 1891, so had to look closer to see it was Margaret...
   My EYES, My EYES!!!!

Plus go back & read the little publications on the Vickers now that they are family...it will be more interesting... But also sad that the other rellies didn't undertake the raising of the neices & nephew

[polarbear]

Hi again,

The question is...If Christina is the daughter of Jane and possibly Francis, how can it be proven? Her birth reg is certainly elusive at the moment.

Elora is a relatively small place....I wonder if there might be baptismal records available, assuming Christina was born there? I'm afraid I don't know anything about that but someone else is sure to know.

I was also wondering if Margaret's grandchildren know where the 'Ross' came from (on the back of the picture)? McIntosh is missing from the list of names?

More Qs than answers....

Polarbear

[J.J.]

If the births were never registered, which did seem to happen with unwed moms sometimes, then it would be tough...Christina's middle name was "M" on death cert, which may have been the McIntosh remaining in her name...Why it would also be used by Christina for Margaret is tough to wrap the brain around...unless she knew Frank wasn't her real father? ahhh...pure spec...J.J.


adding: Baptisms and Confirmation gave me a third and fourth name...middle name was from Grandma and third name was my aunt's... J.J.

[Daisy Loo]

...Why it would also be used by Christina for Margaret is tough to wrap the brain around...

Could it be possible, that Christina had the child in secret, with the rest of the family not knowing?  Perhaps that is why the child was named McIntosh, to further "hide" the baby, and also perhaps why Christina was living with Christina Webster...

What I would really like to find out, and I probably won't, is if Margaret was adopted as a baby, or when the mother died at aged 9  Obviously the child was adopted after 1901 by the Bryans... is there not a 1906 Canadian Census?...

Daisy Loo

Ps, I did go back and read the "notes" and yes, the additions certainly add "meat"    But are we really sure Christina is related to these people?

[J.J.]

Jane McIntosh
Age:  31
Place of birth:  Aberdeenshire Scotland
Single
Parents:  George McIntosh & Margaret Rofs

Witnesses:  William Gerrie, Elora & Ann Duncan, Elora

Uh, I missed the obvious with my 2 second glances again!

ROFS!!!   ROSS!!!! silly us, we should know that back then an "s" could be an "f" and aspecially when "double s"
She's named after Margaret Ross...I've convinced myself...but I imagine more proof can be found with deeper digging...)
( there are 2 birth for parents George MacIntosh & Margaret Ross  - a Donald & a Margaret)
Tarbat By Fearn, Ross And Cromarty, Scotland


re: earlier  couple...James & Elsie (Ross) Dyce came to Canada c1855 with their nine children. She was born c. 1822....No connection seen as yet to the Ross family...might have just been coincidence that he helped run the Vicker's Hotel in Elora.

[KarenM]

... is there not a 1906 Canadian Census?...

Yes, but only for the prarie provinces.

K

[KarenM]

Elora is a relatively small place....I wonder if there might be baptismal records available, assuming Christina was born there? I'm afraid I don't know anything about that but someone else is sure to know.

I found a marriage, I forget for who now, but it took place at St. John's Anglican Church, which is still the only Anglican church in Elora, so I'm guessing that would be the place to check for records.

K

[liverpool annie]

Heres some pictures of the church and Elora !

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ettml/sets/72157603921683286/

Annie