Where would I start, if I can? (post in 3 posts)

[J.J.]

I was thinking "N" meant no relation, but I'll have to check on that...Her death has the initial "M" on here:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org
Christina M. Vickers, born 1870, death Jan. 26th 1900, Elora, Wellington, Ontario
I imagine someone can elaborate on that...


and here are the Bryans as Bryns, a new son Harold, and adopted Maggie in 1911
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=93811

[polarbear]

Hello folks ,

I couldn't find N or L in the list of abbreviations for the 1891 Census. I was wondering about the posibility that N might stand for niece? Also, looking at a couple of other entries on the page I was wondering if L might stand for lodger?

Wish I had full Ancestry so I could look up the baby's birth details but someone will come along who can, I'm sure.

Polarbear

[J.J.]

Hi, Polarbear !
 it may be a search as I couldn't find Margaret under Vickers or McIntosh, mother Christina...
I also thought of niece for N...but haven't found a connection so I'll peek about for one...

Christina Webster, the  widow in whose home Christina & Maggie were in, died Jan. 26, 1899, Elora
(approx. 82 years, born c. 1817 Scotland)
I imagine the loss of a home to work out of would have been rough...


A Jessie Vickers of Elora died Dec. 10 1893, & was born Scotland c. 1825...
& there'a an Elora death for a Maria Vickers in 1870...no age given on site

[J.J.]

Christina Webster is already a widow & alone in 1881....and no sign of Christina & family as yet!!!!
Nothing under Vickers...was she married to a Vickers? no, that's right she wasn't married...Hmmm...
and mysteries always have those puzzle bits that have dropped to the floor...
On my hands & knees now...

[J.J.]

In 1871 there are 2 males, Thomas & Francis mentioned, who are brothers from England...( a George Vickers in     Garafraxa may have been a brother)
Promising...and a little tidbit about them here, should they be her kin...
http://www.thevickerage.com/History%20of%2090%20Moir2.htm
There is also Maria, a widow, & in the household there have been 2 recent deaths registered...


1881 Thomas & Jessie have no children, Francis is a no-show...
Then there is the Maria who died 1870....

Nose to the floor and still no further ahead ...

and the above couple was rather well off to have not taken the wee gal in if she was a rellie...
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Adding: Frustrating that Christina doesn't show on 1881, and Maggie doesn't in 1901..tried dozens of variables in all cases...hope someone else can find more! J.J.

[polarbear]

Hi again,

J.J., have you been able to find a birth for Christina Vickers? She just might have been born/registered after registration began (1869 was it?)?

I didn't find her on the 1881 either. Frustrating, as you say. She has to be somewhere. She wasn't on the 1881 US Census either.

Polarbear

[Daisy Loo]

Can't believe how much you both have found already!

I had a quick look to see if Christina Vickers was born in England, on the offchance...the only one that showed up, was a Christina Vickers born in 1864 (this on the 1881 census) and funnily enough, she was a dressmaker.

Her father was English, and her mother Scottish...hmmm

JJ, did you try Margaret Ross?  For some reason, that name was on the back of the photo.

I wonder if in 1901, Margaret was taken into care (as her mother had just died in 1900) could she have gotten "lost" in an orphanage or something?

How strange that you can't find the birth

You've done great so far!

[J.J.]

Cool! That Christianna Vickers was actually born 1863 Bolton, so even younger to be "our" gal...
But a neat coincidence, for sure"    ( maybe we should leave that door open though)

No, I don't have access to the births, but have asked a few people to hopefully look in and see what they can locate for you...Hopefully we haven't created too much reading thus far to get involved...
I suppose the next step if no birth is found is to ask for help searching in the 1871 Vickers households in Elora...
 

[KarenM]

Here is the death information from the certificate....

Christina M Vickers
Date of Death:  June 26, 1900
Residence:  Geddes Street, Elora
Occupation:  Dressmaker
Single
Where Born:  Elora, Ontario
Cause of Death:  Suppurative Peritonitis - 5 Days
Religion:  Presb.
Reg. No. 027978
County of Wellington

K