Where would I start, if I can? (post in 3 posts)

[Daisy Loo]

Okay, found that Eveline Annie Showell in 1871 census in Uk as well.  No matching names or anything...so maybe they were just friends or neighbours....



Added:
Oh well done....
so yeah, matches up with the 1871 census, coz mothinlaw Wrigley was living with them....okay another idea hits the dust 

You know what though, I am very glad that we have found Margaret's real mother, and real family...I think you guys have done amazing to get this far.  I should be grateful for that!  Not moaning for more!!!

[Daisy Loo]

hmmm, no wonder she is "Ann Evlier SHOVEL" in 1881 

lol oh dear! accents no doubt! 


So we are still missing: 

1.  Birth Reg/Baptism for Margaret Ross/Vickers/McIntosh,    (c.1891)
2. Where she was in 1901
3. Birth Reg/Baptism For Christina Vickers/McIntosh (c.1870)
4. Where Christina was in 1871
5. Where Jane McIntosh was in 1871

Have I got that right?

[Daisy Loo]

Just a thing I found...might be relevant, might not be...BUT

While poking around in the 1871 census, I put in McIntosh, and Grey North...only 2 names came up for Sullivan,

John McIntosh, 54, Scotland
Maria McIntosh, 1, Ontario

No other McIntosh'es to be found.  I thought this a bit strange, I am assuming that they were in the same household.  Could the M in Christina M Vickers stand for Maria?  Haven't yet seen if there is a connection from Christina to John...but...just another sighting!

Added:  I received an email from the grandson, and unfortunately, he has never heard of McIntosh, and also wondered about the Ross.  he did mention that the last family reunion took place in Elora, where his grandmother grew up, at least while she was with her mother..(ie from birth til she was 9?)

[J.J.]

I just looked and they aren't in the same household, although someone might still be  looking after his child
The baby is here:
 District 37 / Sub District  A  / Division Page 1 / Page  D /  County GREY Sullivan Twp.
John is Division Page 2, Page 69

Can anyone see any more information on this baby ? 1861 not available yet for all these areas we are searching....
but they are moving along...

[Daisy Loo]

Yes, I found out a bit more...apparently page D means "The page number 'D' means that this individual did not appear in the regular census schedule, but instead was listed on the schedule that recorded deaths that had taken place within the last twelve months."

Looks like not our baby anyway!

I joined up with an***ry.com, for the 14 day trial and have been searching like mad!  and Zilch!

[Daisy Loo]

Here's another red herring.

I have found a Jane McIntosh in Scotland, on the 1871 census,b.1838  birth place, Huntly, Aberdeenshire with mother Margaret, .  (No father there.)  Thing is the birth place of Margaret, the mother doesn't match the rest of the census's, and neither does the age

I had a look at passenger lists...only one came close, to fit with times, and its quite a peculier one...James McIntosh, Jane McIntosh b.1844 and a baby, Jane McIntosh...age 2, ...but the weird thing is, that with every other couple/family travelling, wife is written enxt to the woman's name, but not so with Jane, implying she is not the wife of James. This was arriving in 1867, in Canada. 

[J.J.]

hah, we sent at same time...
Never hurts to try all avenues, as we have been surprised before... Wonder when Jane McIntosh entered Canada...Maybe found lots of information on a John McIntosh and Margaret Ross, but not on a George as father...

But now that you have *A* did you check out...the scotland census to make sure that the gal we think it is isn't on the 1872...Can't remember, did we have a year of imm. from a census? Too much for taking notes, so hope you did, daisy loo....Did she have a baby at sea? Prior to coming here? Are they on a passenger list together...Do we have a Christine age one on the Scot census 1871? ( First check if we had a year of immigration as that would be a waste of time)...awe we are starting to snag....momentum waned at the lack of baby in 1871 household did it?


 

[J.J.]

Also when I reread I saw that you had questions about the great number of adoptions...To be brief, there was about a century of child migration to Canada...for their own good it is said, although they were taken from their homeland, and often put into homes of other's choices. Often one or both parents had died, or some parents were too poor to keep all children. The lucky ones were adopted here into good families, but some families were mean and rough, and well, maybe just not parenting enough to bring a little joy into the little lives...But many others were put immediately into domestic or farm labour work as early as age ten & treated like slave labour...They are called British Home Children, and we hunt for them often on here, which I suppose is why we are getting quite good at the hunt for children....

[Janice M]

Alright who started without me?   

Although there has been alot of info found, I did see one thing about (Pickering/Ajax) Vicker's.

Pickering Ajax Digital Archive
http://www.pada.ca/search/results/?txt_a=Vickers

Gazetteer and directory of the county of Wellington, for 1871-2
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=11294



Janice