Where would I start, if I can? (post in 3 posts)

[liverpool annie]

Just off topic for a minute ......  .... have you guys seen this site ?

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hutchfield/monint.html

Annie 

[KarenM]

What a great site Annie!

[J.J.]

There are a Frances & Mary Vickers on 1852 census who may be parents of Francis (  Frances Vickers /  Mary Brooke)
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census52/SurnameSearch.jsp?surname=vickers

Now I don't see Francis with the bottom lot, who are brothers George, Thomas & maybe parents but there's
one in Brantford... wife Maria...remember he was widower?
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census52/View.jsp?id=250&highlight=29&desc=1852+Census+of+Canada+page+containing+Francis+Vickers

So if he comes to run Hotel in Elora, wife dies 1870...Christine born c 1870...Francis marries Jane 1872....?


Oh, yes, annie...I found it yesterday as well, but had to leave as the colours made my vertigo creep up...
ugh

[KarenM]

Maybe Maria died as a result of Christina's birth?  Cause of death was inflamation of the bowels?  If we had Christina's birth that would make things so much easier.

K

[KarenM]

Ok, I called the church    don't you love it when the say, hang on let me get the book!

So, he couldn't see any Christina c1870 in the baptism's, but he did give me this information

Ann Maria Vickers, daug. of Francis & Jane
June 10, 1873, sponsors Mr. & Mrs. Sheppard

Meta Elizabeth, daug. Francis & Jane
June 11, 1875, sponsors William & Margaret Gay

Nina Mary Ellen, daug. Francis & Jane
Sept. 30, 1877, sponsors John & Mary Jane Johns

Karen

[J.J.]

So nice of you Karen...yeah, "long distance...can you hold???"

Well I know what a local Catholic priest told my neighbours...when they asked if their baby ( born only three months after he knew he'd married the couple ) could be baptised he answered "I won't baptise your little "B*ST*RD!"
So it wasn't always the choice of the couple if you see what I mean...
and no, they never attended again...

[Daisy Loo]

So, in 1891 sorry 1901, Nina & Meta are living with Nina's godparents then (sponsors).

[J.J.]

Would the 1871 census help?...It would prove the right father at least...but then censuses aren't always accurate for dates, are they?

Frank/Frances Jr. ( maybe double jr.) in 1901  b. March 31st.
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=107713
He can also be found in WW1 CEF signups as there is a notation on one of those urls concerning Elora fellas

Meta & Nina 1901  Wiarton,  Bruce
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=19117&highlight=37

Ann Davies also in Wiarton,  Bruce...so was she also adopted by the same family?
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=19126&highlight=16

and what on earth did the census taker 1881 write for AnnMaria born 1873? Looks like Bricken or some such?

[J.J.]

Yes, the promise of sponsors is that should anything happen to the parents they would take over...and also uphold the "faith" I don't think anyone thinks of that responsibility anymore...
 (nowadays the rearing of children would have to be written in a will)