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Re: Please can I have a date, clean and colour thank you
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Bingo...he's still there in 1891 but Geo Caldwell is mistranscribed as Leo. Still taking photos. He's from Paisley, incidentally.

Still checking....
Moore/Paterson~Montreal
Moore/Addison~New Brunswick
Jubb/Kerr~Mirfield~Halifax~Moffatt
Williams~Dolwyddelan

King~Bedfordshire~Hull
Jenkins~Somerset
Sellers~Hull

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Re: Please can I have a date, clean and colour thank you
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 18:05 GMT (UK) »
Most likely birth, for what it's worth is:


13 Juy 1848 s/o William Caldwell and Janet Crawford (IGI extracted)


When does he first appear on the English censuses, China?

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Re: Please can I have a date, clean and colour thank you
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 18:27 GMT (UK) »
I'm not finding any Caldwells from Scotland residing in Notts in 1871. All the Caldwells there are in the same place, though, St Mary, same as our Geo.

He's still there in 1901, and a George Caldwell of the correct age died in Nottingham district in 1915.

So...we have a rather wide window for the photo. I'd put it in the 1880s myself, just because of the condition and style of the backing. The photo itself isn't very dateable...not by me anyway :)

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Moore/Addison~New Brunswick
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Williams~Dolwyddelan

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Re: Please can I have a date, clean and colour thank you
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 19:12 GMT (UK) »
This is one of Esther's previous Caldwell cards which we dated 1897.
Edit:The front of the card is identical to the one posted.As you can see there is a number at the top,we need Esther to show us the back or tell us what the number is.

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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Please can I have a date, clean and colour thank you
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 20:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Sorry for not posting earlier - feel like I've really missed out on a good discussion there.  Here is the back of the card - I think it is either the same as the one you put up Jim or very similar. It was more the short hair and dress style that intrigued me.

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Gilah/Gayler/Guyler - Notts
Moss - Derbys/Notts
Hall - Derbyshire/Notts
Bowmar - Notts
Norris - Essex
Baker - Islington
Elsey - Derby/Notts
Brewer - Birmingham
Watson - Cumberland
Dalton - Cumberland
Carlilse - Notts
Kay - Notts
Atkinson - Lincoln
Mees - Notts
Denham - Notts

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Re: Please can I have a date, clean and colour thank you
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 20:11 GMT (UK) »
Just remembered that this has got an extra studio listed on it - I knew there was something slightly different but couldn't think what. ::)

Esther
Gilah/Gayler/Guyler - Notts
Moss - Derbys/Notts
Hall - Derbyshire/Notts
Bowmar - Notts
Norris - Essex
Baker - Islington
Elsey - Derby/Notts
Brewer - Birmingham
Watson - Cumberland
Dalton - Cumberland
Carlilse - Notts
Kay - Notts
Atkinson - Lincoln
Mees - Notts
Denham - Notts

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Re: Please can I have a date, clean and colour thank you
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 21:02 GMT (UK) »
So...as the "branch" studio rarely predates the "main" studio... :D...what do we have?
Moore/Paterson~Montreal
Moore/Addison~New Brunswick
Jubb/Kerr~Mirfield~Halifax~Moffatt
Williams~Dolwyddelan

King~Bedfordshire~Hull
Jenkins~Somerset
Sellers~Hull

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Re: Please can I have a date, clean and colour thank you
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 21:41 GMT (UK) »
and there's no number on it - so we're really left with our original estimates  :-\

Think I'll just concentrate on the restore and leave you two to sort it  :)


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Re: Please can I have a date, clean and colour thank you
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 26 February 09 16:38 GMT (UK) »
Logically China's correct in her assumption but I think the 2nd. predates the 1st.
The general style is the same so not much between them but the ornate border
of the 1897 card, I believe was added later.

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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/