Richard TUMMON - innkeeper, Ship Inn, Newquay

[krisesjoint]

Well that is a pity. I had hoped the baptisms would appear in St Merryn but as you have been through the film and Richard and William are not there, I don't know what to suggest. These two baptisms do not appear to be listed elsewhere in Cornwall either. William states in 1851 that he was born in St Merryn and I suspect he is the son of Matthew.

From the Crantock side I am sorry to say I cannot prove a connection, though I am sure it exists. William named his son Cotton. You just don't pull a name like that out of thin air. I had hoped William and Richard may have witnessed each others marriages but no such luck. No Tummons were witnesses.

Richard TUMMON otp Bachelor = Jane CARIVECK otp Spinster  Crantock by Banns 28 Mar 1809 Both signed (Jane signed Carrivick) Witnesses Mary Jenkin and Ann Carrivick

Banns read Crantock between Richard TUMMON otp Bachelor and Jane CARIVICK otp spinster 12, 19, 26 Mar 1809

Richard TOOMAN of Newquay buried 15 July 1847 Crantock aged 59 years

Now I note in 1841 Richard had a son Matthew which does seem to tie in with St Merryn. I do suspect that Samuel and Cotton are Matthews sons by a previous marriage. Personally I see no reason to tie the American Revolution into this certainly not without proof. (not the sort of reason one would normally see suggested for migration)

People moved for many reasons and there was quite a bit of migration between Cornwall and the North of England. In fact I do see a Samuel TUMMOND was baptised Smeaton Yorkshire WR father Mathew 27 Feb 1774. Unfortunately I do not see a Cotton listed.

Kris 

[krisesjoint]

William TUMMON otp = Ann MORRISH otp Crantock by banns 18 Nov 1815 Wiliam signed, Ann signed with her mark. Witnesses Nicholas Bradford and John Morrish

William TOOMAN of East Pentire was buried Crantock 27 Oct 1859 aged 74

baptisms to William and Ann

Samuel 19 Mar 1816 father farmer otp
John 26 Jul 1818 father Farmer of Eastern Pentire
Mary 14 May 1821 father Farmer of East Pentire itp
Cotton 19 Sep 1824 father Farmer of Pentire itp

So he had a Samuel and a Cotton

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

Now back to Richard and The Ship Inn. It appears to be now "The Victoria Bars" in King Street Newquay. I cannot find a photo but the way this is worded possibly the original building has been replaced.

http://www.newquayvoice.co.uk/nvnews/news/newsItem.php?news_id=749&offset=q&phpShop=ebb807b7db731ae521e1bfc801b04583

Richard did have a connection to the sea. This is right by the wharf so he would have been catering to mariners

In 1841 he had a son Matthew. I cannot find a baptism for matthew at all but I did find his burial

Matthew TOOMAN of Newquay aged 32 years buried 20 Jun 1848 Crantock

Either he changed his name or there is no baptism.

The baptisms I found to Richard and Jane in two parishes are

John 30 Apr 1809 Crantock

Ann 6 May 1811 St Columb Minor

Francis 19 Jul 1814 St Columb Minor Father Yeoman otp

Margaret Carivick 15 Jun 1816 St Columb Minor Father Mariner otp buried Crantock 21 June 1816 aged infant

Margaret 11 Apr 1819 St Columb Minor Father Mariner of Newquay

Margaret 29 May 1820 Crantock Father Husbandman of Newquay

now there is a Margaret buried on the same day - 29 May 1820 Infant, I guess this was the one baptised the previous year and they buried one and baptised another on the same day. This baptism said William and Jane – William was crossed out and replaced by Richard.

Christiana 3 Feb 1822 Father Fisherman of Newquay

Cheers Kris 

[ronsaghey]

If William Tummon died in Crantock in October 1859, that gives him a birth year of 1785. If Matthew Tummon married Catherine Kent on December 8, 1784, could William be their son?

Also, what might bring a Yorkshireman to Cornwall?

[ronsaghey]

Also, I only have the baptisms for Samuel Tummon's childen. I never checked the St. Merryn registers for any baptisms in 1785.

[krisesjoint]

I suspect William and Richard are Matthews Children but I cannot find the baptisms listed. - William in particular when looking at the names of his children. 

Re Migration - We are talking the onset of the Industrial Revolution, machinery began to take over. When looking for connections between Cornwall and Yorkshire one would have to look closely at the mining industry. This was the period of growth in industry of all types - Agriculture, Shipbuilding, the wool and textile industries, ass well as mining. Steam Technology was seen the way of the future in the late 18th century. The fishing industry is another possibility of course.

Kris

[ronsaghey]

I've just sent off an e-mail to Susan Old, the OPC for St. Merryn to ask if there were any baptisms in St. Merryn for William and Richard.

I've also joined the Yorkshire rootsweb mailing list and put a general query on that about my Tummons.

[ronsaghey]

Susan Old confirmed that William Tummon is Matthew Tummon's son but couldn't find any baptism for Richard Tummon.

[lrc2530]

Just for information, The Victoria Bars is known locally as Vic Bars and if you go onto http://www.newquayvoice.co.uk and enter vic bars in the news search box you will find quite a few recent articles about it.
Lynda