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Re: The man with 175 Grandchildren ....
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 21:19 GMT (UK) »
do you think possibly the census might yield some clues for his children?
and definitely his grandchildren
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: The man with 175 Grandchildren ....
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 21:39 GMT (UK) »
so can we list the Children y.o.b & p.o.b so  we can try to find the 175 grandchildren

we have
Alice 1784 Darwen bur 1785
Alice 1789 do.
Betty 1782
Richard 1794
Townley 1787
Thomas 1786
Izabel 1800

all children of Richard & Alice

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children of Thomas & Alice
George 1812
Rhoda 1812

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Peggy
B:  29 MAR 1824  Christening:     15 AUG 1824      Over Darwen Pole Lane Independent, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
  d/o     MARK TOWNLEY & MARY    
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ALICE TOWNLEY
   Birth: 17 AUG 1811  Christening: 15 OCT 1811      Over Darwen Lower Chapel Independent, Blackburn,d/o JOHN TOWNLEY & BETTY

 
   
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: The man with 175 Grandchildren ....
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 23:11 GMT (UK) »


I have the following:

Betty bap 29 Sept 1782
Alice  bap 16 May 1784 buried 14 Jan 1785
Thomas bap 2 Jan 1786
Townley bap 3 Jun 1787 married Ellen Drapers 15 Sept 1805
Alice bap 1 Mar 1789
John bap 22 Sept 1790 ( a possible burial, 1809, or married Betty Marsden, 7 children)
Richard bap 5 July 1794, m Mary, 7 children
Mark born 17 Sept 1796, bap 10 October)two poss marriages, both on 1841, so two different men. 8 children?
Michael bap 1 Jan 1799 born Sharples
Izabel dob not found, buried 27 Dec 1800.

No births found after 1800, but possibly not yet transcribed on LAN-OPC.

Another possible child, Christopher - he is a witness to one of the Mark marriages, and the other marriage is witnessed by someone called Walsh!

I have looked for a second mariage for Richard senior, but there are none described as widower...not foolproof, I know.

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Re: The man with 175 Grandchildren ....
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 23:22 GMT (UK) »
so can we list the Children y.o.b & p.o.b so  we can try to find the 175 grandchildren

we have
Alice 1784 Darwen bur 1785
Alice 1789 do.
Betty 1782
Richard 1794
Townley 1787
Thomas 1786
Izabel 1800

all children of Richard & Alice

__
children of Thomas & Alice
George 1812
Rhoda 1812

__
Peggy
B:  29 MAR 1824  Christening:     15 AUG 1824      Over Darwen Pole Lane Independent, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
  d/o     MARK TOWNLEY & MARY    
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ALICE TOWNLEY
   Birth: 17 AUG 1811  Christening: 15 OCT 1811      Over Darwen Lower Chapel Independent, Blackburn,d/o JOHN TOWNLEY & BETTY

 
   

Toni, you seem to be missing some.
If you look up at my previous post there are more:

Baptism: 29 Sep 1782  - Betty Townley - Dau of Richard Townley & Alice

Baptism: 16 May 1784 - Alice Townley - Dau of Richard Townley & Alice
Burial: 14 Jun 1785 - Alice Townley - Dau of Rich'd Townley & Alice

Baptism: 2 Jan 1786 - Thomas Townley - Son of Richard Townley & Alice

Baptism: 3 Jun 1787 - Townley Townley - Son of Rich'd Townley & Alice

Baptism: 1 Mar 1789  - Alice Townley - Dau of Rich'd Townley & Alice

Baptism: 5 Jul 1794  - Richard Townley - Son of Rich'd Townley & Alice

Burial: 27 Dec 1800 - Izabel Townley - Dau of Richard & Alice

Baptism: 29 Nov 1812 - George Townley - Son of Thomas Townley & Alice

Baptism: 29 Nov 1812 - Rhoda Townley - Dau of Tho's Townley & Alice


I could only find a Burial for Izabel, not a Baptism so maybe she was an older child born elsewhere?

Gaille
Manchester – Bate(s) / Bebbington / Coppock or Coppart / Evans / Mitchell / Prince / Smith

Cheshire Latchford – Bibby / Savage / Smith.
Cheshire Macclesfield,  Bollington & Rainow – Childs / Flint / Mc'rea
Cheshire Crewe – Bate(s) / Bebbington
Shropshire Wellington, Wobwell – Smith
Walsall Midds – Smith
Norfolk - Childs / Hanwell / Smith

Also looking for:
Mc'Rea/McCrea – Ireland to Cheshire

And
any relatives of Margaret Bibby married to Thomas Smith all over country


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Re: The man with 175 Grandchildren ....
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 23:27 GMT (UK) »
so can we list the Children y.o.b & p.o.b so  we can try to find the 175 grandchildren

we have
Alice 1784 Darwen bur 1785
Alice 1789 do.
Betty 1782
Richard 1794
Townley 1787
Thomas 1786
Izabel 1800

all children of Richard & Alice

__
children of Thomas & Alice
George 1812
Rhoda 1812

__
Peggy
B:  29 MAR 1824  Christening:     15 AUG 1824      Over Darwen Pole Lane Independent, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
  d/o     MARK TOWNLEY & MARY    
__
ALICE TOWNLEY
   Birth: 17 AUG 1811  Christening: 15 OCT 1811      Over Darwen Lower Chapel Independent, Blackburn,d/o JOHN TOWNLEY & BETTY

 
   

Toni, you seem to be missing some.
If you look up at my previous post there are more:

Baptism: 29 Sep 1782  - Betty Townley - Dau of Richard Townley & Alice

Baptism: 16 May 1784 - Alice Townley - Dau of Richard Townley & Alice
Burial: 14 Jun 1785 - Alice Townley - Dau of Rich'd Townley & Alice

Baptism: 2 Jan 1786 - Thomas Townley - Son of Richard Townley & Alice

Baptism: 3 Jun 1787 - Townley Townley - Son of Rich'd Townley & Alice

Baptism: 1 Mar 1789  - Alice Townley - Dau of Rich'd Townley & Alice

Baptism: 5 Jul 1794  - Richard Townley - Son of Rich'd Townley & Alice

Burial: 27 Dec 1800 - Izabel Townley - Dau of Richard & Alice

Baptism: 29 Nov 1812 - George Townley - Son of Thomas Townley & Alice

Baptism: 29 Nov 1812 - Rhoda Townley - Dau of Tho's Townley & Alice


I could only find a Burial for Izabel, not a Baptism so maybe she was an older child born elsewhere?

Gaille

Opps!
Ok ignore the last two! I posted two grandchildren in as Children by accident !
Teach me to try & multi task on the OPC (I was looking for some of MY darwin family when I decided to look at this one too!

Gaille
Manchester – Bate(s) / Bebbington / Coppock or Coppart / Evans / Mitchell / Prince / Smith

Cheshire Latchford – Bibby / Savage / Smith.
Cheshire Macclesfield,  Bollington & Rainow – Childs / Flint / Mc'rea
Cheshire Crewe – Bate(s) / Bebbington
Shropshire Wellington, Wobwell – Smith
Walsall Midds – Smith
Norfolk - Childs / Hanwell / Smith

Also looking for:
Mc'Rea/McCrea – Ireland to Cheshire

And
any relatives of Margaret Bibby married to Thomas Smith all over country

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Re: The man with 175 Grandchildren ....
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 23:45 GMT (UK) »
How interesting
My grandfather was one of 16 but they didn't all live I did find 6 buried with their parents
I know my mother had lots of cousins . So it's  maybe possible that the great grandchildren are counted with the grandchildren
Saying that the head stone looks in very good condition and is readable  not like some I have found
has it been re-printed I wonder

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McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,East Hollywell.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns Brechin.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland. Stark's Kyloe & Tweedmouth .Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth

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Re: The man with 175 Grandchildren ....
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 26 February 09 09:40 GMT (UK) »
   
ISABELLA TOWNLEY
 Christening:   28 DEC 1794   Saint Mary, Lancaster,
 
d/o  RICHARD TOWNLEY  &  BETTY 
 :)

(she died 1800  :'( )
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: The man with 175 Grandchildren ....
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 26 February 09 09:42 GMT (UK) »
all children of Richard & Betty


ISABELLA TOWNLEY -  as before : 28 DEC 1794 Saint Mary, Lancaster,
 
BETTY TOWNLEY -: 18 NOV 1787 Saint Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
 
THOMAS TOWNLEY - 23 OCT 1791 Saint Mary, Lancaster,
  RICHARD TOWNLEY -: 29 NOV 1789 Saint Mary, Lancaster,


Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: The man with 175 Grandchildren ....
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 26 February 09 12:41 GMT (UK) »
It couldn't be the Richard Townley in St James's Churchyard.  His wife was Alice.

He did have a son Richard born 1794, to young to be a father at this time.

Alice didn't die until 1812 and she was having children
at least until 1799.