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Re: tracing info on a George Gibson
« Reply #45 on: Friday 27 February 09 08:42 GMT (UK) »
Oh my,  he  was married  in  1914  to  Mary Fiddes (reg no 15575)  and  by  the record had three children.mmmn  no  divorce showing on  the SRO to 1930. 

He  did live in  Paddington  but  with  his  wife.


The skeletons  that come tumbling out of cupboards ;)

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Re: tracing info on a George Gibson
« Reply #46 on: Friday 27 February 09 08:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I am afraid I am not that clever .All I did was a search for any Clifford births in Windsor.Then matched them to the deaths.Couldn't find Oscar and as Fly said her one went to the war I looked up the records and there was Oscar Clifford's file with letters about him being now George Gibson.
Not that brilliant detective work I'm afraid ladies.

Name change is sort of explained in a way by his enlistment form.
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Re: tracing info on a George Gibson
« Reply #47 on: Friday 27 February 09 09:02 GMT (UK) »
Ladies you all might find this interesting as it mentions Oscar/George's family but also a custom for the old days.
Source is a Hawkesbury Historial Society Newsletter

A recent acquisition in the Museum is probably one of
our creepiest. We have accessioned a mummified cat,
a ritual object found under the floorboards, during the
course of renovations, of a house in Day Street,
Windsor belonging to one of our members.
Early convicts and settlers, particularly if they were of
Celtic origin, brought to the colony a belief in folk
magic and witchcraft.
The cat and two
children’s shoes[pictured left] of different sizes, are believed to have been put under the house when it was first built in about 1890. The first owner of the house was a Mr Charles
Clifford, of English extraction, who married a local McMahon girl of Irish background. It may well havebeen at the
insistence of his wife that the ritual objects were
placed beneath the house. Mr Clifford was a
leatherworker at one of the many tanneries in
Windsor. The Clifford’s had five children.
Our mummified cat [pictured right] has been named
Gray Malcolm, after the cat of one of the witches in
Shakespeare’s MacBeth.
Old houses often had concealed ritual objects placed
there as protection against witches, evil spirits and the
powers of darkness. Shoes and boots were the most
common objects used for ritual purposes They were
used as they are the only portion of clothing that
retains its shape once you take it off and bad spirits,
when they saw a shoe or boot, thought that someone
was nearby. Pieces of clothing, bits of lace and cats
were also used. Children’s boots and shoes are oftenused as ritual objects because the children grow out of
the boots or shoes very quickly. In days gone by, an
adult would wear out their shoes or boots. Typically a
single shoe is found, never a pair, and the shoe is
always well-worn.
Typically ritual objects were found in weak points of a
building - the points where witches and evil spirits
could gain access, such as chimneys, the roof or attic
space and under floors. Our mummified cat was found
beneath the entry indicating that it was placed under
the threshold to stop witches or bad spirits from
entering the house. Cats were believed to have an
association with witches and were associated with the
underworld and bad spirits would see the cat and
assume there was a witch nearby and would not enter
the premises and deliver evil upon the occupants.
Another favourite spot to place a ritual object or
talisman was under the hearth.

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Re: tracing info on a George Gibson
« Reply #48 on: Friday 27 February 09 13:09 GMT (UK) »
LOL Anne...that was very interesting reading.....I am still stunned atm....but it doesn't surprise me.....I believed he had changed his name and seems I wasn't wrong with my intuition. My mum is very superstitious and I wonder why? LOL.


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Re: tracing info on a George Gibson
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 00:11 GMT (UK) »
Found his birth cerificate, being Oscar Clifford, 37682-1890 at Windsor. NSW. Father was Charles and mother Mary E McMahon.....just need to find out now the other names of the children Charles and Mary had and where Oscar was in order of births of those children...have yet to find the address where they lived....

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Re: tracing info on a George Gibson
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 00:34 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the NSW online BDM

There are the children born to Charles and Mary E at Windosr


1885 CLIFFORD HENRY JOSEPH   reg no 22748
died in1952 18661 at Parramata

1888 CLIFFORD FREDERICK  reg no 24754
died in 1962 reg no 6894 at Burwood

1890 CLIFFORD OSCAR

1892 CLIFFORD CHARLES  reg no 38724

1895 CLIFFORD IRIS C reg no 28487
died in 1976 reg no 18462 married name Iris Cecelia ST GEORGE

1900 CLIFFORD MAY T  reg no 8803


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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: tracing info on a George Gibson
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 01:32 GMT (UK) »
Jenn...thankyou for that.....feels so good to finally find out something about our grandfather after all these years.......now hav to find out the names of his children in his marriage to Mary (May). Just to know that my mother had other half siblings somewhere and to know who they are so we can maybe meet them if they are still alive...

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Re: tracing info on a George Gibson
« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 01:34 GMT (UK) »
Anne.....that note of his name change on the WW1 documents...was that on a special document? was the name change an official document? or was it just attached to all the files..?

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Re: tracing info on a George Gibson
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 03 March 09 03:49 GMT (UK) »
You  have  to  read all  the  54 odd pages  to see where tells of  his name change.

Jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.au