edinburgh/purves/smith/wylie

[joanna21]

I'm trying to go further back with the following. Margaret Clark Purves (born 12/4/1908 Edinburgh married James Tullock Hogg. Margaret's mother Alice Jane Smith married John Purves. Alice's mother Jane Wylie married James Smith on  6/10/1871 Edinburgh. Trying to find Jane Wylie's family  and James Smith's. Any other info would be great as unable to access Scottish info.

[AMBLY]

Hi Joanna21

Do you have any Census records at all for the people you have mentioned?

Do you have the marriage records of:
 Alice Jane SMITH to John PURVES (and do you know when/where either was born?)
 Jane WYLIE to James SMITH 1871 (and do you know when/where either was born?)

Cheers
AMBLY

[tidybooks]

Hi joanna21,

I think I have found mother Jane Wylie with daughter Margaret Smith (aged 1month) in the 1871 census, which was taken 2/3 rd April 1871. James Smith and Jane Wylie subsequently married 6th Oct 1871.

1871 census at Hynds House, Crichton, Midlothian

John Wylie      65 b 1806 Newbattle Midlothian formerly Ag Lab
Margaret Wylie   62 b 1809 Newbattle Midlothian
Andrew Wylie      32 b 1839 Cranston, Midlothian – Farm Servant
William Wylie      22 b 1849 Humbie, East Lothian- Farm Servant
Jane Wylie      20 b 1851 Humbie, East Lothian- Farm Servant
Margaret Smith   1mo b 1871 Crichton

Tom

[tidybooks]

Hi joanna21,

Jane or Jean Wylie was christened 16 December 1849  in Humbie, East Lothian, Scotland to parents John Wylie and Margaret Stenhouse. John and Margaret married on 31 May 1833  at Fala And Soutra, Midlothian, Scotland (From IGI).
1861 Scotland Census at Fala S Mains, Fala and Soutra, Midlothian

John Wylie      54 b 1807 Newbattle Midlothian - Ploughman
Margaret Wylie   53 b 1808 Stow, Midlothian - wife
Thomas Wylie      20 b 1841 Cranston, Midlothian - Ploughman
William Wylie      13 b 1848 Humbie, East Lothian - scholar
Jane Wylie      11 b 1850 Humbie, East Lothian – scholar

1841 Scotland Census at Catcune, Borthwick, Midlothian

John Wylie      30-34 b 1807-1811 Midlothian -  Ag Lab
Margaret Wylie   30-34 b 1807-1811 Midlothian 
John Wylie       5 b 1836 Midlothian
Andrew Wylie       3 b 1838 Midlothian
|Thomas Wylie    1 b 1840 Midlothian
Plus 2 boarders

I cannot find them in 1851 census.

Tom

PS To get James Smith side of family, you will need to download marriage certificate to get his parents names.

[tidybooks]

Hi Joanna21,

In the 1881 census at Fushiebridge, Borthwick, Midlothian;
James Smith      29 b 1851 Ednam, Roxburgh – General Labourer
Jane Smith      28 b 1852 Humbie, East Lothian – wife
Maggie Smith       10 b 1871 Crichton, Midlothian - scholar
Andrew Smith        8 b 1873 Borthwick, Midlothian – - scholar
Elizabeth Smith     5 b 1876 Borthwick, Midlothian – - scholar
Alice (Jane?)Smith     2 b 1879 Borthwick, Midlothian

In the 1891 census at Fushiebridge, Borthwick, Midlothian;
James Smith      40 b 1851 Ednam, Roxburgh – Colliery Labourer
Jane Smith      39 b 1852 Humbie, East Lothian - wife
Andrew Smith      18 b 1873 Borthwick, Midlothian – Colliery Labourer
Elizabeth Smith   15 b 1876 Borthwick, Midlothian – Domestic Servant
Alice (Jane?)Smith   13 b 1878 Borthwick, Midlothian - scholar
Isabella Smith        9 b 1882 Borthwick, Midlothian - scholar
Joan Smith        5 b 1886 Borthwick, Midlothian - scholar
Janet Smith        2 b 1889 Borthwick, Midlothian

In the 1901 census at Fushiebridge, Borthwick, Midlothian;
James Smith      51 b 1850 Ednam, Roxburgh – Contractors Carter
Jane Smith      50 b 1851 Humbie, East Lothian - wife
Andrew Smith      27 b 1874 Borthwick, Midlothian – Millers Labourer
Joan Smith      16 b 1885 Borthwick, Midlothian – House Worker
Janet Smith      12 b 1889 Borthwick, Midlothian – scholar
Williamina Smith     9 b 1892 Borthwick, Midlothian – scholar
And a boarder.

Tom

[tidybooks]

Hi,

In the 1901 census at Main St, Hillside, Lasswade, Midlothian:

Alice J Smith 22 b 1879 Borthwick, Midlothian -  General Domestic Servant
to the Cunningham family.

Alice Jane Smith married John Purves at Borthwick, Midlothian in 1905, this is on Scotland Peoples website.

Tom

[joanna21]

Thankyou so much. You're an absolute star. I'm so grateful to you. I shall be able to piece the family together now.

Thanks so much again  Jo

[rswells]

Hi Jo,

1871 census at Hynds House, Crichton, Midlothian

John Wylie      65 b 1806 Newbattle Midlothian formerly Ag Lab
Margaret Wylie   62 b 1809 Newbattle Midlothian
Andrew Wylie      32 b 1839 Cranston, Midlothian – Farm Servant
William Wylie      22 b 1849 Humbie, East Lothian- Farm Servant
Jane Wylie      20 b 1851 Humbie, East Lothian- Farm Servant
Margaret Smith   1mo b 1871 Crichton

Here is what I just found, I thought it might be of interest to you...

1871 census at Hynds House, Crichton, Midlothian

Name:     May Human Jefford (I think this must have been a poorly written record as I am sure this should read Mary Jeffrey (not sure about the 'Human' part yet as I have just started to research this person)
Age:    31 b:   abt 1840
Relationship:    Head, Gender:    Female, Where born:    Hadsmine, East Lothian
Registration Number:    681
Registration district:    Crichton
Civil parish:    Crichton
County:    Midlothian
Address:    Hynds House
Occupation:    Out Door Labourer
ED:    2
Household schedule number:    77
Line:    24
Roll:    CSSCT1871_154


Household Members:    
Name    Age
May Human Jefford    31
David Jeffery    9
Thomas Jeffery    5
John Henry Wylie    1 Mo
William Thomson    13


I am not sure why John Henry Wylie is being shown as a son of Mary Jeffrey m.s Thomson?  Did she remarry? Her (first) husband was James Jeffrey.  I am not yet sure when he died....

Anyway - I just thought you might like to know there was another Wylie in the house at this time.

Best wishes

Richard

[Ian.K]

Hi

I can't help with going back but I can help a little with later info. Margaret Clark Purves was my grandmother. She married James Tullock Hogg (buried in Tranent Cemetery East Lothian), and then married Harold Edward Grant. They moved to Devon. Sorry I haven't got any dates to hand but I should be able to get them without too much trouble.

Margaret and James had two daughters Alice, the eldest now living in Winterbourne near Bristol and Jane (my mother) who died in 1964.

As you are researching the family then I guess we must be some distant relations.

If you need any more help or would like to get in touch I am on hotmail using my initial and surname dot com

Regards Ian Kirkup