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Chatfield - Brighton
« on: Thursday 19 February 09 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Looking for any information on Ebenezer Chatfield, a confectioner by trade - born c1841 in Brighton; died c1928 also in Brighton; married 1859ish to Rebecca Hall.

Think his father was called Edward who was born around 1812 in the East Grinstead area.

Thanks

Bev
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Re: Chatfield - Brighton
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 February 09 21:07 GMT (UK) »

Hi Bev - some good info here...

1851 Brighton - H0107 1646 F665 p32 and 33
No 24 Bond Street
Edward Chatfield 38 Confectioner and Baker 1 man employed b Ardingley
Sarah wife 41 b Laughton
Ebenezer son 10 b Brighon
Mercy dau 8 b Brighton
Isaac Chatfield nephew 18 Baker b Ardingley
Charles father 74 Parish releif Cordwainer b East Grinstead
Mary mother 72  do b Ardingley
Richard Rolf baker assistant 27 b Kent Tenterden
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Re: Chatfield - Brighton
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 February 09 21:17 GMT (UK) »

And 1841 - HO107/1121/6 F31 p5

Brighton, Church Street
Edward Chatfield  29 Grocer
Sarah 30
Hepzibah 3
Ebenezer 1
Adah Guila 10

all answer yes to born in County
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Re: Chatfield - Brighton
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 February 09 21:34 GMT (UK) »

Any idea who Adah is?  she's indexed as Chatfield. 
So..........
possible marriage and the best match from SMI if you suppose Hepzibah to be their first child

Brighton 13th April 1837
Edward CHATFIELD bach and Sarah GLADMAN sp botp (B)

no further info given.
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Re: Chatfield - Brighton
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 February 09 00:38 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for those.

Have to check out those other names and the possible marriage and see if I can find anything further.

Not a clue on Adah Guila... doesn't sound an overly English name though  ???  Found a death record for a Hepzabah Chatfield who died in 1843 in Brighton though so maybe s/he didn't survive.
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Re: Chatfield - Brighton
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 21 February 09 14:08 GMT (UK) »
hi gravity, this may not help you, but i was going to make a post with the same title when i saw yours. i have just received the marriage cert. of my gtgtgtgrandfather to find he married a mary ann chatfield in brighton1849. her father is named as william chatfield [ironmonger], i cannot find mary & william together on the 41 census . as you may know their seems to be quite a few chatfields in the brighton area.regards, youngtug.

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Re: Chatfield - Brighton
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 21 February 09 17:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi youngtug

Unfortunately Mary Ann isn't relevant to my Chatfield tree but thanks for the reply anyway.  However there are so many Chatfields all over Sussex that it wouldn't surprise me if they were actually related somewhere along the line! :)

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Re: Chatfield - Brighton
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 February 09 14:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Adah did survive because she appears in the marriages in the March quarter of 1860.
Chatfield  Adah Zillah    ref Brighton  2b 212 (FreeBMD)   
Perhaps her M cert has a different father (or mother?)

Adah's husband was William Webb who she married at St Nicholas church on 11 Jan 1860 (IGI)
So have look for her on the 1851 census under Chatfield and the 61 & 71 censuses under Webb

Here she is on the 1881 census.

 1 Howard Terrace Brighton, Sussex, England
   Public Records Office Reference   RG11   Piece / Folio   1088 / 10   Page Number   13
William WEBB       65   Hove, Sussex, England   Carpenter Employing 1 Man     
Adeh Zillah WEBB   Wife   50   Isfield, Sussex, England   Toy & Sweet Shop     
Adeh Zillah WEBB   Daur   U   20   Brighton, Sussex, England   Assistant Shop     
 
So her birthplace is now quoted as Isfield and not Brighton.  You need to radiate your research a bit.
Edward was from Ardingly (close-ish to Isfield) so perhaps she was actually a daughter of an unmarried sister of Edward?

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Re: Chatfield - Brighton
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 22 February 09 20:48 GMT (UK) »
Forgot you were initially after info on Ebenezer.
1881 census
15 & 16 Bond St Brighton, Sussex, England
 Public Records Office Reference   RG11   Piece / Folio   1091 / 103   Page Number   27

Ebenezer CHATFIELD   Head  40   Brighton, Sussex, England   Confectioner Employ 7 Men 3 Boys 3 Woman     
 Rebecca CHATFIELD  Wife  43   Brighton, Sussex, England       
 Edwin CHATFIELD    Son    20   Brighton, Sussex, England       
 William CHATFIELD   Son    19   Brighton, Sussex, England       
 Amos CHATFIELD      Son    17   Brighton, Sussex, England   Scholar     
 Annie CHATFIELD    Dau     16   Brighton, Sussex, England   Scholar     
 Harry CHATFIELD    Son     14   Brighton, Sussex, England   Scholar     
 Ellen CHATFIELD    Dau      11   Brighton, Sussex, England   Scholar     
 Emma CHATFIELD    Dau     9   Brighton, Sussex, England   Scholar     
 Louise CHATFIELD    Dau    7   Brighton, Sussex, England   Scholar     
 Alice CHATFIELD    Dau       5   Brighton, Sussex, England   Scholar     
 Eliza JANDER        Servt    44   Ditchling, Sussex, England   Servant Dom     
 Harriet RAMSLEY  Servt    25   Brighton, Sussex, England   Assistant Confectioner     
 Jane BORREN       Servt    20   Assistant Confectioner     

The size of his workforce suggests he manufactured as well as retailed.
Adah also said she worked in a toy and sweet shop in 1881, so she may have run another retail outlet for Ebenezer's sweets and employed her daughter as an assistant.
Roy G