Albert(Alfred) WITHERS

[Joe2]

I am trying to find the birth certificate of Albert (or Alfred) Withers, born c1856 in Berkeley.
His father was Henry WITHERS and his mother was Eliza BRUTON.
A possible date is 28 Dec 1856, but I cannot find the certificate details.
A baptism record would also help.
Other sources like Ancestry.co, IGI, FreeBMD etc have been unsuccessful.
Hoping someone can help.
Regarfds
Joe2

[Tati]

Hi Joe,

This one maybe?

Albert Wither
Jun 1857 Thornbury 6a 156

 

[lizdb]

Or this one -
Jul/Aug/Sep 1857
Clifton, Glos 6a 94  (Idont know Glos area,so might not be right reg district for Berkely)
Alfred Withers

[Tati]

Mind, looking at the censuses, the Albert Withers born ca. 1857 I can see on censuses is the son of Hannah and Ambrose.

Albert son of Henry and Eliza was 17 in 1871, which would put his birth around 1854 rather.

Having another look!  

Added:  Liz - Berkeley comes under Thornbury

[Tati]

So I'm offering this one, rather:

Albert Wither
Dec 1853 Thornbury 6a 150

[avm228]

Hi all

Is this the same child? (Info from IGI, extracted entry):

HENRY ALBERT WITHERS
Baptised:  28 January 1855   
Berkeley, Gloucestershire

Parents:  HENRY WITHERS & ELIZA     
 

Edited: There's also an extracted baptism for a William Charles WITHERS, child of same couple, 21 August 1853 at Berkeley.

Anna

[Tati]

Well, that's odd Anna!

If I'm looking at the right people in 1861 in Cardiff (talk about disgusting handwriting!!), they have a son Albert age 5 and a son Henry age 4! 

So Albert seems to be 5 born Berkly in 1861 and 17 born City of Gloucester in 1871 - grrr, wish they could make up their minds! 

[avm228]

Birth, Jun qtr 1853:

William Charles WITHERS

Thornbury 6a 157

So - hmmm... - a Dec 1853 birth reg for a younger brother probably not technically impossible but looks unlikely (especially in view of Tati's detective work re 1861 - I couldn't find them at all!)
Anna

[Tati]

Indeed, William is 7 in 1861 and Albert 5. Back to square one!