Missing Grandad

[2zpool]

I think this George Ayres returned to the US on the same ship when it left Liverpool.  He was English and lived in Pittsburgh most of the time on a trip for business.  In reentering the US gives that information.  I see him on several voyages back and forth.  There is some documentation for 1 Sept 1884 and indicates he is a US citizen now issued in Cleveland Ohio. Date of arrival 9 Oct 1904.  Also states he is single and an Enginer and deals in paper products. 

I don't know if this is your guy or not.

Janis

[Swampduck]

Hi Janis - thank you for this information.  It does not sound like my grandad, although I never knew him - he died long before I was born, but at this stage I am ready to consider anything.  Can anyone suggest what else he could have been doing for 24 years? 

To miss one census is bad enough, but to miss two is a bit thoughtless of him!!

swampduck

[mim]

Hi,

I know you mentioned that you had noticed variations on the surname and just wondered if this is a possibility for George in 1891?

4 Albert St Stockton RG12/4050 77 9

Mary Hutchinson head wid 71 bn Yks West Witton
Margaret Shotton dau wid 47 bn Yks West Witton
Christopher Ripley gd-son 27 Metal cleaner bn Stockton
George HAYES lodger 26 Metal cleaner bn Stockton 

mim

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[Swampduck]

Hi Mim,

That's certainly interesting!  I've checked and cannot find a George Hayes born in Stockton (either Durham or Nth Yorkshire) in 1864.  In fact, according to Free BMD and the LDS sites, there were only two around that time - one in 1860 and one in 1869, neither of them being born in Stockton.

I'm almost certain that all his siblings had married by this time and I know his mother had died, so he may well have been living in lodgings.  I thought he might be somewhere with his father, Ralph, but drew a blank on that one.  Incidentally, his father disappeared after the 1871 census and I've only managed to find him when he died in c. 1893.

Thanks again mim, I'll see what more I can dig up on George Hayes.  If this is my grandad, I wonder what his name was in 1901?

swampduck

[mim]

Hi Swampduck,

Do you mind if I ask the name of the person your grandad married in 1905 in Leeds?

Perhaps he was already in the Leeds area in 1901?

mim

[Swampduck]

Hi Mim,

So sorry but I never saw this last reply to my original post - however I am still looking for my grandad!

In 1905 he married my grandma, a widow,  Charlotte Elizabeth Wharfe (nee Lonsdale).  She was born in Ripon but the family later moved to Thirsk - she was in domestic service when she was 14.   I wondered how they came to be in Leeds but later found that her brother in law lived there, Charles Wharfe, so maybe that was why Charlotte and her first husband moved there. The Wharfe's came up from Thetford in Norfolk.

swampduck