Sands Norrieston and Port of Menteith

[Chevalier]

Thank you for the link to your new website!  I glanced at it quickly to see what you had on the Buchanans of Leny and I shall go back to study it in detail soon.  I will send you my e-mail address privately.

Thanks again,

Terrance

[Doun]

Hello Val and terrence and Tommy

I have a Jane SANDS married to an Archibald DOW 1842 in Kincardine by Doune
I habve their children but no information on their ancestors

Their 8 children were all bap. in Port

Regards Doun

[valr]

Hi Malcolm
What is Archibalds d.o.b? May be one of "mine" - I have Dow ancestors buried in Kincardine in Menteith cemetery. I was there and at Norrieston cemetery on Friday - showing a Canadian cousin the sights! The names you mention are ringing bells with me - suspect I may have seen their stone - do you know where they are buried?
Val

[valr]

love to have a copy as Sands and Dow are part of my family

Tommy did I ever send you this? Sorry I cant remember!

[Chevalier]

I have this Jean/Jane Sands in the 23rd generation of my manuscript anent the descendants of the barons of Arrochar/chiefs of clan Macfarlane.

She married Archibald Alexander Dow (born 9 June 1819) son of Lieut. Archibald Dow and his wife Margaret whose surname I do not know.

I am in a rush to get out the door and cannot go into her ancestry at the moment but you can see it on my website.

Terrance

[Chevalier]

I posted what little I know of Archibald Alexander Dow's ancestry in my previous message today.  I'll post his wife's ancestry here below.

1. Jean Sands, born 13 March 1818, Arnvicar, Port of Menteith Parish, alive 1881 census.  (Her eldest sister, Janet Sands, Lady Glenhead, was my thrice-great-grandmother.)  [Daugther of 2 & 3.]

2. Robert Sands, bapt. 3 April 1780, Arnvicar, died there 8 April 1852.  [Son of 4 & 5.]
md. 31 January 1812, Kilmadock Parish
3. Margaret MacQueen, bapt. 16 December 1787, Ballavourisht, Kilmadock Parish, died 18 May 1879, Blarnabord, Drymen Parish, Stirlingshire.  [Daughter of 6 & 7.]

4. Robert Sands, bapt. 9 January 1737, Arnvicar.  [Son of 8 & 9.]
md. 7 December 1772
5. Jean MacLay, born circa 1755, Kepculloch, Drymen Parish.  [Daughter of 10 & 11.]

6. Archibald MacQueen, bapt. 19 July 1752, Ballavourisht.  [Son of 12 & 13.]
md.
7. Janet MacGregor, bapt. 9 September 1764, Milntoun of Cambus Burn, Kilmadock Parish.  [Daughter of 14 & 15.]

8. John Sands, bapt. 17 February 1706, Arnvicar, died there before 1759.  [Son of 16 & 17.]
md.
9. Jean Fisher, bapt. 9 September 1711, Miln of Ruskie, Port of Menteith Parish.  [Daughter of 18 & 19.]

10. David MacLay, born circa 1710, Kepculloch, died before 21 November 1772.
md. 2nd
11. Jean Miller, born circa 1725.

12. John MacQueen, born circa 1720, Kilmadock Parish.
md.
13. Janet Stewart, born circa 1720, Annat, Kilmadock Parish

14. John MacGregor, born 1734, Milntoun of Cambus Burn, alive 1787 when he voted for a new clan chief.  [Son 28 & 29.]
md.
15. Elizabeth King, bapt. 22 August 1736, Kilmadock Parish.  [Daughter of 30 & 31.]

16. James Sands, an Elder of Port of Menteith Parish Kirk Session, born circa 1675, Port of Menteith Parish, alive 22 January 1736.  [Son of 32 & 33.] 
md. 2nd (her sister, Marion, was his 1st wife)
17. Jean Simmie, born circa 1685.  [Daughter of 34 & 35.]

18. John Fisher, an Elder & Kirk Session Clerk of Port of Menteith Parish, alive 1735.
md.
19. Mary Buchanan, born circa 1680, Callander Parish.

20 through 27 unknown.

28. Patrick/Peter MacGregor, born circa 1700, (Balquidder Parish?) Perthshire.  [Son of 56 & 57.]
md.
29. Janet Ferguson, born circa 1710, Kilmadock Parish.

30. John King, bapt. 7 July 1695, Kilmadock Parish.  [Son of 60 & 61.]
md.
31. Katherine Buchanan, born circa 1715, Perthshire.

32. Robert Sands, an Elder of Port of Menteith Parish Kirk Session, born circa 1650, alive 4 June 1699.
md.
33. Anna [surname?], born circa 1655.

34. John Simmie, born circa 1650.
md.
35. Jennell MacFarlane, born circa 1660.

36 through 55 unknown.

56. Patrick/Peter MacGregor, born circa 1670, (Balquidder Parish?) Perthshire.  (Y-DNA testing of his direct male line descendants has proved that he was a cadet of the chiefs of clan Macgregor.)
md.
57. [?]

58 & 59 unknown.

60. Andrew King, born circa 1670, Kilmadock Parish.
md.
61. Janet Ferguson, bapt. 20 March 1679, Kilmadock Parish.  [Daughter of 122 & 123.]

62 through 121 unknown.

122. John Ferguson, born 1651, Kilmadock Parish.  [Son of 244 & 245.]
md.
123. Margaret Stewart, born circa 1660, Kilmadock Parish.

124 through 243 unknown.

244. Patrick Ferguson, born circa 1625, Kilmadock Parish.
md.
245. [?]

That is as much as I can do without digging files out of the attic, hope it helps.  I would be glad to hear from anyone who can add to any of these lines for me.


Terrance

[hjm020]

Hello Everyone,

I wondering if i'm somehow related into all this aswell!

I have an Alexander Sands (1838) who married a Margaret Harvie (1839). From the census information I've been able to get hold of they had six children:
Mary Ann (1859)
Catherine (1861)
John (1862)
Margaret (1864)
Jane (1869)
Alexander (1870)

Catherine Sands married John McQueen (1853) and had a daughter named Catherine Harvie Sands McQueen in 1892, born at Polder.

She married Alexander Paterson (1883) and they had two children, their daughter Catherine Sands Paterson being my grandmother. They lived at Port of Mentieth and farmed South Flanders Farm.

I've yet to fully trace the Paterson side of my family but I know that Alexander's father was named Daniel (1841) who was married to an Elizabeth Stewart, both of whom were also from Port of Menteith and were married at Drymen Parish.

If anyone has any further information or pictures of the farm it would be really appreciated.

Kind regards,

Heather

[valr]

Hi
I have some Sands and some McQueens .. and Stewarts. but not the ones you mention unfortuantely!
Here is a photo you might like - a line of gravestones at Port of menteith all belonging to the Sands family. If you pm me I will send you a transcription of all Sands gravestones in Port of Menteith and Norrieston. I believe there are some at Kippen too but I don't have any pics or transcriptions of those.
Can you give me more info re your Stewart relative? I have several of those from Drymen.
Val

[valr]

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