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Death of Matthew REID - Hobart 1838
« on: Sunday 15 February 09 05:33 GMT (UK) »
Does any one have access to Tasmanian Burials Information? I'm looking for the burial records of Matthew REID d.26/3/1838 aged 53 years in Hobart.

I found this information from a headstone on a recent visit to Hobart, and I am 99.9% sure he is "mine". The name and age are correct. I know he was alive in Hobart at his daughter's wedding in 1837, and I know he was dead before 1843, as his wife was described as a widow at her death that year.

I am aware of a convict named Matthew Reid in Hobart around mid 1830's, but he is not my ancestor. Mine was a builder/architect from Ireland who arrived in Hobart 1833 with his family. I doubt the headstone would relate to the convict?

I'm hoping some information on the burial record might give me that extra 0.1% I'm after.

Les

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Re: Death of Matthew REID - Hobart 1838
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 15 February 09 05:41 GMT (UK) »


You probably already have this Les ... but heres a photo of the grave stone !

http://thegardensfamily.com/cemeteries/Hobart/StAndrews/index.htm

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Re: Death of Matthew REID - Hobart 1838
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 15 February 09 06:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi les

Sorry I know nothing of your man & this death is not listed on the avri - but just to mention - if the convict was a freeman by this time he could have had a grave - especially if he came to Tasmania early, or via Norfolk Is. Many of the NI folks became the solid citizens of Hobart in later years - there were not alot of free settlers in early times. Would your Irish man have been presbyterian - or buried in a presb. cemetery?


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Re: Death of Matthew REID - Hobart 1838
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 15 February 09 06:23 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for those replies.

Annie, I was aware of that site. I only "discovered" it a few days before I left for Tasmania, and that was my first location I visited in Hobart. Luckily my photo's are a bit clearer than that shown on the website, and the inscription can be read.

Trish, the headstone is now located in a park which was once St.Andrews Cemetery, a Prebyterian Church. The headstones have been removed from the gravesites, and now line the perimeter of the park.

Matthew REID the convict arrived in Tasmania Aug 1836 from London. 

Matthew REID the ancestor's wife died in NSW in 1843, and on her headstone she is described as "the relict of the late Matthew REID". There is no NSW record of Matthew REID's death. The wife died at Appin, where her daughter was living.

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Re: Death of Matthew REID - Hobart 1838
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 15 February 09 09:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Les

If you don't have anybody responding to your info prior to next Saturday I will check at the FHS for burial info.

Tom

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Re: Death of Matthew REID - Hobart 1838
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 February 09 02:36 GMT (UK) »
If you don't have anybody responding to your info prior to next Saturday I will check at the FHS for burial info.

Tom

Thanks Tom, I might take you up on your kind offer if you have time?

 As I previously indicated, I'm sure this death is "my" Matthew Reid the builder, but I would really like to be 100% sure, if possible. I tried to find some more on the "other"   Matthew Reid the convict, who arrived in Hobart in 1836 but with no success. Though that was last night, and I think I tried some time ago with him, and found him still to be alive after 1838 (I think?).

Its not often in Australian family research that you don't want a convict!  :o

Les
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Re: Death of Matthew REID - Hobart 1838
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 February 09 02:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Les

I hadn't checked when the convict arrived. Being 1836, like you I would be extremely doubtful that he would have died and had a gravestone so soon after arrival. My original comment was based on him arriving much earlier.

Do hope Tom finds a burial record  :)

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Re: Death of Matthew REID - Hobart 1838
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 February 09 02:55 GMT (UK) »
Being 1836, like you I would be extremely doubtful that he would have died and had a gravestone so soon after arrival. My original comment was based on him arriving much earlier.

Not a problem - exactly how I was thinking. I suppose that's why I'm 99.9% certain.  :)

Les
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Re: Death of Matthew REID - Hobart 1838
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 February 09 03:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Les,

It looks to me as if you have the correct grave  ;)

Did the convict get a second conviction? As a South Australian I am not familiar with convict records but I do note the ledger 1846 and 1849 states

convicted 19 Sep 1835

REID Matthew vessel Lord Lyndoch convicted Dumfries 1835 7 years Norfolk Island
                                                              V D Land 1843 Life

Have you seen this re your Matthew?

http://www.rootschat.com/links/05la/   

Cheers Kris  :)
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