Drummond -Scotland

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Ages on the censuses are often wrong. It is the correct family - the mother is Mary McPhee!


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[hijimhere]

thanks gadget my confidence is back again..had a go at the IGI and got full birth dates for the children....am I ok in using these as a base line to try to trace?

Amazed that in the space of 24 hours I know that my great grandfather was born in Dunkeld c1834 now that is a bit unbelievable but it's true.  may be difficult from now on I gather as it all depends on if the birth resulted in a christening and entered in the church records.

I will have a good go at the IGI site..... thank you once again for an astounding journey, I hope I can succeed with  some more.

Jim

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Hi Jim

As long as the records on the IGI are extracted records then they are pretty reliable. The Extracted records are quite easy to recognize because they have a Batch number, date, etc. at the bottom of  the personal information - often an alphanemeric starting with a C, P or M, although there are some other first letters. See this site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/

These Extracted entries were extracted from the original records by the LDS. Other records on the IGI are from Patron submissions (records submitted by anyone ) and can be relaible or just guesses.

It is normally best to check the records (especially any  submitted records) against the originals (on Scotlands People, for example). However, this can be quite expensive if there are large families and it's up to you. It is nice to see the original BMDs though   

I'm not sure if any of your ancestors would appear before 1855 because the entries are, in the main, taken from Church of Scotland records.

I'm still trying to find the Drummonds in the 1891. I'll report back but need to go off this afternoon.

Good luck


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[Gadget]

Hi again

Here's an interesting one. It looks as if it could well be your grandfather's father and his parents:

1851

North Bridgend, Crieff, Perthshire
District 342 ED 1 Page 19/20

Alexander Dewar, 71, Weaver - cotton, b. Crieff
Mary, wife, 74, b. Crieff
James, son, 36, Carter, b. Crieff
Alexander Drummond, lodger, 47, basketmaker, b. Gatehouse of Fleet, Gallowayshire (Kirkcudbrightshire)
Janet Drummond, lodger,, 52, b. Greenlaw, Berwickshire
Janet Drummond, lodger, 21, dressmaker, b. Annan, Dumfriesshire
**Alexander Drummond, lodger, 12, Basket maker, b. Dunkeld, Perthshire
James Stewart, lodger, 19, brushmaker, b. Elgin, Morayshire

I have quite a bit of info on Kirkcudbrightshire as my ancestors were from there 


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Maybe this is them on the 1841:

36 Gartmore, Port of Mentieth Perthshire
District 342 ED 1a Page 6

Alexander Drummond, , 35-39, stoneware merchant
Janet Drummond, 40-44
Jane Drummond, 15-19
Janet Drummond,11
Helen Drummond, 8
Alexander Drummond, 2

All down as being b. Perthshire (or more correctly 'born county' ) This is very general in the 1841 and might well not be correct. Also note that in the 1841, those over 15 were grouped into 5 year age bands - thus 15 = 15-19, 20=20-24, etc. I've adjusted for this  here.


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[hijimhere]

How do we go about finding if they are?  Cannot seem to work the extract thing!

Jim

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Hi Jim - not sure what you mean 

Here are Alexander and Janet in the 1861. Obviously the children were elsewhere:

Waddell Land, Cumbernauld, Dumbartonshire
District 495 ED 8 Page 23

Alexander Drummond, 56, Basketmaker, b. Crieff
Janet, wife, 63, basket maker's wife, b. Berwickshire

As they lived beyond 1854, their deaths will be on Scotlands people if they died in Scotland. This will give their parents' names and, in Janet's case, her maiden name.

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I think it might help if you do a chart something like this:

Alexander Drummond (circa 1805 - ?) m Janet ?
(Children ~         )
           I
Alexander Drummond (circa 1839 - ?) m Mary McPhee/McFie
 Children ~                  )   
           I
Alexander Drummond (1874-1941) m 1898 Christina McCallum
(Children ~                 )
           I
Your father
           I
       You


I'll try to find out about the Janet and the parents that we've not found yet.

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If it's any help, i think the older Drummonds, Alexander and Janet, died 1861-1871 as I can't see them on the 1871 census. However, none of the deaths on SP jump out at me so .........................


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