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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 10 May 09 10:37 BST (UK) »
Hi

Have you checked the 1911 census?  James (1844) & Emily still appear to be in Newmarket, Cambs.  The image should tell you how many children were born to the marriage, and how many were still alive at the time of the census.

Is it possible that one of your grandfather James's sisters married a Zebulun?  He would still have been your mother's uncle, just not a blood relation.

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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 10 May 09 11:09 BST (UK) »

Is it possible that one of your grandfather James's sisters married a Zebulun?  He would still have been your mother's uncle, just not a blood relation.

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Gaie

Good thinking Gaie  ;D

I have searched for any Newmarket births between 1869- and 1892 with a name anything similar to Zebulon and not found one.So your idea of a marriage to someone of that name is good!

Carol

Added- can't find one though  :(
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 10 May 09 11:48 BST (UK) »
Hmmm...

In the 1871 Census there is James (1844) & Emily with son James (1868; enumerated as a scholar at the age of 3 :o) and daughter Ruth (c1870); Ruth has disappeared by 1881.  And there are no birth or death regs for a Ruth in Newmarket between 1869-1881  ???

Parish records for Bottisham appear rather secretive; LDS do have microfiche of transcribed birth records 1859-1950, but they are not for circulation  ??? ???  Films of bishop's transcripts are 1599-1879, and parish records 1561-1876 are available, but Bottisham already seems to have been transcribed to the IGI, and these Ayres aren't showing up, let alone a Zeb....  ??? ???

Re-think time .... ;D ;D

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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 10 May 09 19:28 BST (UK) »
In 1891 their children were Samuel 23; Eli 17; Asher 11; Aaron 8; Absolum 6; Elizabeth 4; James 2. There were no additional children in 1901. Doubtless you've found the family in 1881 on www.familysearch.org, where only the eldest three show.

So if there was a Zebulun he appears to have been born and died between censuses.

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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 15:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks to everyone for your help, I believe that Zebulon did in fact die between censuses, like his elder sister Ruth, but she did at least show on the 1871. The idea Gaie of checking the 1911 census to establish how many children born to the marriage is most helpful; strangely I had done this with my grandparents' marriage , as their family is oddly spaced, births 1897, 1898, 1903, and then nothing, my grandmother was 31 when my mother was born in 1903 so I would have expected at least 4 more! I did not however think laterally enough and check for the information on my greatgrandparents marriage, but of course it should be there. Thanks again,
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 20:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Roger

I'm wondering whether the Ayres were Wesleyan or Primitive Methodists, as they don't appear in the CoE parish records and in view of the zealous naming of the children.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/CAM/Bottisham/index.html
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~engcam/method.htm

Only viewable at Cambridgeshire Record Office, but this line may be worth pursuing.

Did your mother give the impression that she knew or had met Zebulom/un?  Perhaps it was a middle name of one of the siblings already identified and by which he was known to the family?

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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 23:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the gentle nudge, Gaie!
I'll have a careful perusal of those Bottisham PR's at the CCRO next time I'm up there - perhaps later this week...
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 23:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Keith, you're a star!!

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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 13 May 09 00:12 BST (UK) »
Gaie,
I haven't shone my torch on those vital PR's yet, so we'll have to see...
And while we're on thorny problems to solve, with "if I scratch your back..." kind of thing, can anyone offer any semblance of help with a briar patch I'm stuck fast in myself:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,380332.0.html
Off to bed now,
keith