PAUL's in Ballymena

[lanarman]

The data I gave in the quote is family information taken from old bibles, etc. that has not been authenticated. That same family folklore names my Paul family as originating in Ballymena, County ANTRIM, so that should be correct (and there's only one Ballymena in Antrim as far as I know).  I saw the other Ballymenaghs and the numerous Pauls, McAuleys and Blairs in Aghadowey parish in Griffiths Valuation and started to second guess myself.

My Great Grandfather Moses Blair Paul was born June 1, 1851 in Ballymena and emigrated with his parents and older siblings to Canada in 1852.  I cannot find the baptism in the online databases (maybe they are not complete, yet). The family was definitely of the Presbyterian faith.

Thanks for your comments/ help.

[aghadowey]

You are so lucky to have the information from that family Bible- I was given one that belonged to my great-great-great-grandfather and the only bit of writing in it is his name!
The are actually 3 Ballymenas in Co. Antrim- the town of Ballymena, Ballymena Little (Ballynure Parish, Larne Poor Law Union) and Ballymena townland (Skerry parish, Ballymena PLU). The last is possibly the most likely and has been mentioned earlier in this thread.
Not all church records survive and not all the records that do survive are online anywhere so it's possible your family details are not in any database.

[lanarman]

I guess the only way to solve this is to commission research at PRONI or use their service. Maybe I'll try a lookup request for a birth record on the request board.

Thanks, Aghadowey.

[aghadowey]

PRONI is due to close shortly in preparation for their move to the Titanic Quarter but would be difficult to know if any records exist or if the ones found are the correct ones.

[lanarman]

Going back and rereading the messages on this thread, the church records at 1st Broughshane Presbyterian would be a good place to start as there are numerous Pauls in that locality (whether related or not, that is another question- no one else on this thread with Pauls can connect to my Pauls).

Perhaps there are resources available to search emigration records/passenger lists for the year 1852 to Canada?

I take note of your comment that PRONI is preparing to move, so not a good time to contact them, yet.

Michael

[lanarman]

Message to Weaver2:

I have found new information that my Moses Paul married to Sarah McAuley in Ireland was born in either 1808 or 1809 and not circa 1805/06 as previously stated. My thoughts are that he was a first cousin of your Moses born in 1805.

[Weaver2]

Good that you found new possible birthyears for your Moses Paul.  That may help distinguish him from Moses Paul who's birthdate is calculated from the headstone at 1st Broughshane.  He remained in Antrim and died there.  The headstone has the date of death as 28 Nov 1900, 85 yrs. which sets him into 1805 for his birth.   Another source that was transcribed from the Death Registers for Broughshane has a Moses Paul d. 7 July 1885, aged 80.  That transcription has not be checked at PRONI.  Either way it seems he was born 1805. Wish I'd known to check the original sources as I was just at PRONI in July.

[Weaver2]

Has anyone placed the children of Moses Paul/Elizabeth Hyndman of Lisbreen, Co Antrim  in Kendall County, IL or Cook County, IL by 1860?

Could this couple be Moses Paul b. 1805 d. 1885 or 1900 married to an Elizabeth d. 27 Jan 1900 at Coreen with John McBride present?  John McBride spouse of Sarah Paul (possible daughter of Elizabeth).  Is there a source for Elizabeth's last name Hyndman?

[lanarman]

1st Broughshane Presbyterian Church records shows 4 different Moses Paul's with wives named Nancy, Mary, Eliza and Sarah having children baptized 1837/38/39 time frame. Lisbreen and Elginny townlands which are adjacent townlands in the Parish of Skerry.
The Encumbered Estates papers refer to a John (born c. 1777), William (born c. 1780) and a Moses Paul (born c. 1784) as sons of another Moses Paul. No reference to an Archibald Paul born c. 1782 but he MAY have been another brother of John, Wm. and Moses.
There is evidence that these 4 Paul brothers (IF Archibald is a brother) had sons all named MOSES, ie. the 4 Moses Pauls mentioned in the first paragraph.
I believe that 1 of these 4 Moses was married to Elizabeth HYNDMAN and another Moses married to Sarah McAULEY.
I also believe that the Moses Paul born 1784 came to Canada with his sons Moses (Sarah McAuley) and John I. Paul (Sarah G. Blair) and died shortly after emigrating c. 1852.
Could the William Paul born 1780 be the husband of Elizabeth AGNEW?