Finding records which give clues of other family-death records in Carlisle.

[emmsthheight]

Hi Jillynetter.  Sounds like you've been having a long do with this one!

I'm a bit confused though.  Was your husband in Carlisle Library or was this a national paper?

In other words, I'm not sure if it's just other ideas on where to look you need, or if you can't get into Carlisle.  Also, do we know it's Carlisle
If you've got a date, the registers for the cemetery are in the library as well as the record office.  I think you must have, but otherwise the record office has indexes as well.

If it is the cemetery at Richardson Street, and you get the grave plot number from the register, they have good maps and it's reasonably straight forward to find a plot, if you can get there.  Then you can see if there's a stone with other information.  The cemetery can also tell you who bought the grave.

I'm not sure if you're local and have that anyway or not.  If not, if you get a number I'll go and look.  Let me know if there's anything that will help.

Do you have easy access to Carlisle library?

I hope you move on with this.  By the way, some events are reported or announced in more than one of those papers in there completely differently, so it's worth checking another.

Sorry, read again and you've given some of this.  Emms
Best wishes

Emms

[jillynetter]

Thankyou Emms. Unfortunately this GG Grandfather has proved to be very elusive and there have been blocks at every turn.

The latest being that story reported about his death had no mention of family other than a Grandson being the one who identified him, I know who that was, but was hoping to find a brother or sister.
No death notices in the newspapers were found and to top that off the Richardson St. cemetery haven't a record of him either, he lived in Millbourne Street so I did think he'd be there, unless he had a paupers funeral.

I've been fortunate with all other lines in my family tree and my husbands too where certificates usually came up trumps and got back quite well.

Anyway I'll see what the 1911 census brings up and in the meantime I'm letting this one go for a while

[emmsthheight]

Hi

Thanks for the reply - you've definitely had an uphill job! 

I hope the 1911 gives you some clues.  I wonder how soon it will appear.  I keep thuinking L'ii look things up like I have for Lancashire, then I remember I can't.

I hope you get some leads soon.

Best wishes

Emms

[jillynetter]

I read on the blog Cumberland and the other English Counties should be online within 2 months, I'm looking forward to seeing it, I've loads to look up so should be saving pennies ready for it, it doesn't sound cheap.

[emmsthheight]

Hi - No, it definitely isn't cheep!   

 I'm rationing myself.  There so many from other counties that I need. 

£6.95 gets you 60 credits, but a look at one original costs thirty credits.  Transcripts are ten. 

I've got one who came up in a military.  That's all.  Just "Military" on the transcrip, no name.  Just the town and just before WW1, it's not obvious what it is, and you have to pay for every page if it's an institution.

Thanks for telling me the latest.

Good luck when it comes.

Emms

[bobgraham]

I know this was a while ago but I've just fallen over a w3. carlislehistory.co.uk/cemeteryg.htmd for which the first bit is free and may give clues .
bob

[bobgraham]

I went to the library today and found this for you. Unfortunately my scanner printer only prints for this computer so I've typed it out for you (including spelling error) and I justified it and everything but when I copied it to here it just unjustified itself. Still the lines are the same length as in the paper.
If you pm me your address I'll post the copy to you.

TRAGIC FIND AT CARLISLE

MAN’S BODY NEAR THE RAILWAY LINE
 A Carlisle railway employe named Thomas
 Bowes of Foster’s Court, Caldewgate, while
 working on the railway side at the Etterby
 Bridge on Tuesday afternoon, noticed the
body of a man lying on the grass on the West
side of the bridge about 25 yards away. He
proceeded to the spot and found that the
 man was dead.
He immediately informed the signalman at
The Etterby signal box, who notified the City
Police Office.  The body was removed to the
Mortuary, where the deceased was later
identified by a grandson as Thomas Cowan,
aged 72 years, of 46 Milbourne Street. Cowan
had been in ill-health for some considerable
time and under medical treatment.
No inquest was held, as the man had been
suffering from a weak heart for three or four
years.
The Cumberland News, Saturday 5th July 1930
bob