Finding records which give clues of other family-death records in Carlisle.

[jillynetter]

Any advice on the following please.
I now have my GG Grandfathers death certificate, Thomas Cowen/Cowan Age 70 died Jul 1st 1930,
I've read I can go to Carlisle record office and either a Burial Register or Monumental Inspcription record have details.
what I'd like to find is where he was born, or names of parents or siblings.
would that information have been recorded? I have the information of his wife and children but I can't get further back of his birth, parents etc.

I also wondered if I found a newspaper account or orbituary of his death that may have those details?
From the certificate it sounds like he died outside as the certificate says Railway bridge, South Side of River Eden.
There was no mention of an inquest.

Sorry advice welcomed as I'm not sure where to start.

[genjen]

What was his wife's name? If you had the marriage certificate, it would give his father's name and occupation.

Jen

[jillynetter]

Thanks Jen yes I have those details and they haven't helped, I've had loads of help in trying to find him with his family but everyone drew blank- which is why I thought the death records may give some clue.

[genjen]

Can you give us his wife's name and any other family names or dates which you think might help. Also the date of his marriage.

We can then search censuses and see what we can come up with. It might be nothing but at least we will have tried!

Jen

[GeoffE]

Here's one earlier request http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,234434.0.html

Tom's age given as 34 in 1891, 23 in 1881.

There seem to be a great many COWINGs born around Hexham in that period but few COWAN/COWEN.  As he had moved a fair distance from home, it's quite possible that he wasn't born in Hexham itself but in a nearby village.

[jillynetter]

Thanks for your posts, I really wanted to know what sort of details the after death documents like obituaries include so I might make sense of all I've found previously. My mistake as my post wasn't clear 

[GeoffE]

I wouldn't expect to find much in the cemetery register-

who
when
where died
plot number
person who conducted service

[JenB]

Can you give us his wife's name and any other family names or dates which you think might help. Also the date of his marriage.

We can then search censuses and see what we can come up with. It might be nothing but at least we will have tried!

Jen

Poor jillynetter has been round and round in circles trying to sort this one out  
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,246801.msg1353268.html#msg1353268
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,239450.msg1296936.html#msg1296936
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,292401.msg1750344.html#msg1750344

[jillynetter]

Geoff that's exactly what I needed to know thankyou, that's the next thing I'm going to find out from that register. At least it will give us an idea where he#s buried and from there the grave stone may have something.

Today my husband visited the library and found an article in the newspaper with brief details about Thomas Cowans' death. It was hardly legible but only the details of who found him and how he died were written, no mention of a family.
At least it's been checked and on to the next record which may give out a clue.

Thanks everyone.