Some Tasmania Help if Possible Please?

[sitrucat]

To: Keengeni, Krisesjoint, TropicalJ, Tom from Oz, Webby & Gennig

Well I woke up this morning and found all of this information!  Thank you so much for all your help, I'm overwhelmed with this.  I need to put all of this into context now and re-check some of my dates and information.  I do have L W Avery's war records and a lot of information from the AIF project togther with a wonderful photo from the AWM Collection (thanks to TropicalJ for finding that in November.)

I'd like to try and find any living relatives in SA or Tasmania hence my pursuit of the R L Avery line. He died 20 Dec 2005 in Kingston - which I found from the Southern Cemetries records. So I feel I'm very close but I don't know if there was a will or even if it could be viewed as it's so recent.

Once again thank you.
 

[sitrucat]

Hi Sitrucat,

Webby has as per usual done a fine job already, I may be able to fill in a few more gaps as I am a member of the Family History Society, this wont be until Saturday at the earliest as they only open on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Saturdays.

Tom

@Tom if you would be able to fill in any gaps I would be very grateful. I'm fascinated by the information that Webby sent regarding Mary Lavinia Avery and her death in the Cascade Training School at 10 months old. I've looked at the Cascades Female Factory Historic site but can only find reference to the Boys Reformatory so I'm puzzled and intrigued. Please let me know of any fees payable for further information and I can arrange payment.

Terry

[Tom from OZ]

Hi Sitrucat,

I visited the Family History Society today and created more questions than I answered.

Firstly, Webby reported a male birth on 27 Nov 1922 from a newspaper notice, by now you would have worked out this was in fact Robert Louis Avery.

Secondly Mary Lavinia Josephine Avery and the mention also from Webby on more detail as to cause of death. 

I located the Funeral Directors report which reports that Mary Lavinia Josephine Avery aged 10 months, born Broken Hill, was buried at Cornelian Bay Cemetery at 3 O'clock by Reverend Talbot with two coaches in attendance.

Now the questions, it also reports that a private grave was opened to bury Mary, so you have another rellie who died in Hobart and was buried in Cornelian Bay.  It also reports Mary was the child of an accountant.

I have tried so far in vain to identify the Cascade Training School, but I will!!!!!!!

There are a couple of schools of thought,  Cascade is in fact a suburb of Hobart which contains the local brewery, after which the beer is named  "Cascade Beer", was there a shortage of labour and staff were trained for work at the brewery?  and did Mary accompany her Father to work this particular day where he was an accountant?

A suggestion was made it was in fact a "Workhouse", but my query is why, if in fact the parent, presumably the father was an Accountant  the child ends up in the workhouse?  Although the Female Factory which was the name of the Female prison in Hobart had been closed for about 30 years in 1895 in continued to operate in some form until 1904 was it part of the female prison?

Keep watching I will find out, even if it is back to the State Archives next Saturday.

What I can tell you is that Mary was buried in the Scottish section D at Cornelian Bay which will give you a clue to her parents. The Doctor who attended her death was George Gibson, and she died of Marasmus (Malnutrition) and convulsions. I visited the cemetery in the hope there was a headstone unfortunately I could not locate one, a number of headstones were unreadable and a couple of graves had no stones.   I will pm you with a copy of the burial report

[tropicalj]

Hello  there Tom

I have been  following this thread  with interest and  note  how much  time and effort you  have put into  this,  goodonyamate  nice  to  see fellow rcers  doing their best for others

I  might just might be abel to help  with  this link to  the Cascade female fctory

http://www.femalefactory.com.au/

let me know if you  think  it is on  the right track or not

kind  thoughts Jenn


edit  by  JEnn  who  has reread the thread and sees that Sitrucate has looked at  this site before,  but  there are a lot of females listed on this site.

[Tom from OZ]

Hi Jenn,

Many thanks for the link.  I did in fact leave the FHS and drive to South Hobart in the hope somebody would be in attendance at the Female Convict Factory but they only open Monday to Friday and even then there would probably be no guarantee of a result.  I have checked the Database of female convicts no sign of Mary or her Mother Mary, in fact no Avery's at all, but the site does say that the list will not be complete until 2015 and they have concentrated on females transported to VDL.

But I am sure collectively we can sort the mystery out 

[sitrucat]

Hi Tom and Jenn

Once again thanks for your help, Tom especially for your help and travelling around. I have PM'd you in respect of this  Mary Lavinia Avery's birth/death in 1895 in Hobart is very strange because at that time her father Louis Henry Mayerres Avery was an accountant at the Broken Hill Silverton Tramway Company (1899 - 1917) I have her birth certificate which confirms this and her dob was 24 February 1895. Her mother is Mary Mckee (Scottish) and the family were togther also with Mary Lavinia's brother - Louis Willyama Avery (b 1891) in 1919 at St Kilda Melbourne. So something presumably took her mother and her to Hobart in 1895.

Regards from a cold UK!

[johngirl]

Hi Terry,

I have sent an email to Cornelian Bay Cemetery to see if they can give us the information of who is buried with Mary. Will let you know if I get a reply.
Can`t find anything on the Cascade Training School but will make some enquiries.

   Johngirl

[sitrucat]

Hi johngirl

Thank you very much - I'm very grateful for your help.

Terry

[Tom from OZ]

Hi all

As I mentioned on a previous post I had visited the FHS I failed to mention that Morris who is one of the staff there was not present.  What Morris doesn't know about Hobart and its history is not worth knowing.  Well I ran into him at the local supermarket and he has confirmed that The Cascade Training School was part of the Female Factory, so I will take a ride down there tomorrow and see what I can find.

Tom