finding mary ann chatfield

[youngtug]

hi. i was looking for army records when i saw the name main waring and i remembered my father and his parents talking about have relatives/ancestors called mainwaring [pronounced mannering]. just a further complication probably has they also said something about a tarten but i have come nowhere near scotland with my research.[ memory is a funny thing] youngtug.

[roofy]

Hello couz, didnt realise i was going over old ground, hopefully a fresh pair of eyes and all that. I definitely reckon that the birth in St Georges is our gal!
Roofy

[youngtug]

Hi cousin, I think so as well.

[Eyesee]

Islington St Mary baptisms
1847 Sep 19, Isabel Fanny, d/o William Warren & Frances DOVE, Providence Place, Builder, born 1847 Aug 21
1850 Jun 30, Mary Julia, d/o ditto, Milner Square, Builder, born 1850 Mar 22
1852 Dec 31, William Basil, s/o ditto, Studd Street, Builder, born 1852 Oct 24
1857 Aug 26, Ellen Elizabeth, d/o ditto, Mildmay Park, Builder, born 1857 May 12
1858 Nov 12, Louise Julia, d/o ditto, Mildmay Street, Builder, born 1858 Sep 20

William Warren DOVE married Frances DIXON at Holy Trinity Islington, 3 Nov 1846.

Ian C

[roofy]

Thanks for the info Ian. Hopefully between Youngtug and myself, we can figure out this family mystery:) One of many I might add. The only Louisa I knew about was the one who was the witness at my gtgtgt grandfathers marriage cert and she calls herself Louisa Alice Dove [youngtug and i are second cousins hence the extra grt for my generation:)
Roofy

[youngtug]

The William Waring Dove in debtors prison is a concertina manufacterer. [1852] Although not the same trade and also it being waring, not warren or warin I wouldn't discount this family, if you notice there is a gap in the births from 1852 to 1857 [prison?] We just have to find a link. Very grateful for your help and anything further you find. Thankyou.

[Eyesee]

William Warren DOVE was the son of William Spencer DOVE. He would appear to have had a brother Benjamin Dixon DOVE, who married Mary Ann DORE or DOVE at Hammersmith St Peter on 14 Oct 1852. Her father was William DORE/DOVE. Witnesses were William DOVE, Isabella Johnson DOVE, S Elizabeth DORE. Benjamin was also a builder, as was his father.

Isabella Johnson DOVE was a sister, father named as William Spencer DOVE when she married George WETHERED, in 1880.

There was another brother Henry Charles DOVE, also a builder, who married Agnes ?? in 1869, his father named as William Spenser DOVE.

Children for interest

Sunbury, Richmond upon Thames
1822 Oct 22, William Warren, s/o William & Ann Isabel Dickson DOVE, Sunbury, Carpenter
1824 Apr 18, Benjamin Dixon, s/o William Spencer & Ann Isabel Dixon DOVE, Thames Street, Carpenter
1826 Dec 25, John Johnson, s/o ditto, Thames Street, Carpenter

St Mary Islington
1828 Dec 25, Isabella Sarah, d/o ditto, Theberton St, Builder, born 1828 Jul 19
1831 Mar 13, Frederick John, s/o ditto, Rotherfield St, Builder, born 1830 Jun 23
1834 Dec 25, Louisa Sarah, d/o ditto, Trinidad Place, Builder, born 1833 Dec 21

Lambeth St Mary
1840 Dec 25, Henry Charles, s/o ditto, Milner Street, Builder, born 1840 Dec 9

William Spencer DOVE married Ann Isabel Dixon JOHNSON, 11 Jun 1821, St Sepulchre, Holborn

Ian C

[youngtug]

Thank you for the effort you are expending on this, the problem is that Mary Ann Chatfield did not have a father listed on her marriage cert to John Wilson so even if I get a birth cert for  Mary Ann dove Chatfield I still won't be able to definitly connect to my Mary Ann. I was under the impression that no fathers name on the marriage cert, meant that they were an orphan or illegitimate. The fact that they[John and Mary] gave their youngest son the middle name Waring hopefully means some connection to William Waring Dove I just need some connection to either the Wilson,s or Chatfields. The only connection so far is Mary Ann Dove Chatfield. I will get her birth cert, but not yet [although she's driving me crazy] and will post the results. John.

[youngtug]

Just to keep you updated;  I have found a will, from Mary Ann Dove Wilson. It is the right one because of the other person named and also the address. So, thankyou all and when I have the birth cert I will update again.