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Offline 4mywife

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shoemakers /cobblers and i think cordwainers
« on: Wednesday 21 April 04 20:36 BST (UK) »
can anyone suggest w/page on the history of shoemakers etc of london/northampton 1885~ :-[
im looking at bruley,[found] tebbutt, northamton,lewis  from saltry and now now down south ,barton, points ,fell and bayliss from clerkenwell, pearce from london,price,poole, yapp,  ebbw vale

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Re:shoemakers /cobblers and i think cordwainers
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 April 04 21:37 BST (UK) »
Hi,

A few years earlier than you asked for, 1869, but the article on Northampton via the link below does have some descriptions of the working conditions of shoemakers and cordwainers.  The article begins:

'The main section of this article appeared in the magazine Good Words on Nov 1st, 1869. It gives a very interesting picture of mid-Victorian Northampton and it's shoemaking'.

http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/1869.html

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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 April 04 19:55 BST (UK) »
 ;D thanks for w /page my g/g/parents worked in the shoe trade in n/hampton and its nice to get a feeling for the place
im looking at bruley,[found] tebbutt, northamton,lewis  from saltry and now now down south ,barton, points ,fell and bayliss from clerkenwell, pearce from london,price,poole, yapp,  ebbw vale

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 April 04 23:41 BST (UK) »
Sasha,

What a fascinating article, which added some colour to my research. My ancestors (Warren) were in the shoe/boot industry and moved fom Northampton to East London.

Geoff


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Re:shoemakers /cobblers and i think cordwainers
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 01 May 04 10:02 BST (UK) »
thats funny mine did it the other way round, R bruley went from london to n/hampton ;D
im looking at bruley,[found] tebbutt, northamton,lewis  from saltry and now now down south ,barton, points ,fell and bayliss from clerkenwell, pearce from london,price,poole, yapp,  ebbw vale

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Re: shoemakers /cobblers and i think cordwainers
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 06 November 07 12:16 GMT (UK) »
My Grandfather Henry Winch 21.4.1880 - 14.2.1968 was an apprentice shoe maker in East Ham London. I know he was apprenticed to a Mr Onion, and became a Master Boot Maker with a shop in Greenwich High Street. Does any one have records of Mr Onion's apprentises?
I am also looking for info on Henry's father William Winch 1815 - 1900 also from East Ham London.

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 06 November 07 12:49 GMT (UK) »
While at college around 1960 my regular holiday job was in the shoe industry in Northampton.

The Northampton Museum in Guildhall Road has a register of shoe makers in its industrial section.  It used to be very good at providing information from the index and also was keen to add your shoemakers to the index.

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Re: shoemakers /cobblers and i think cordwainers
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 November 07 13:04 GMT (UK) »
i found it interesting to learn that Cordwainers never repaired because they only used new leather ..Cordavan leather which was fine goats leather, that made the finest shoes.

Whereas the cobblers repaired.. i did have a good link i'll see if i can find it.

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Re: shoemakers /cobblers and i think cordwainers
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 November 07 02:26 GMT (UK) »
mY 3X great Uncle George SUMMERTON was listed on his 1895 death certificate as a
Master shoemaker of Kings Sutton Northamptonshire.
I am assuming his brother Gayton Mansfield SUMMERTON, my 3x great Grandfather who emigrated to Australia in the 1860's may be listed in England as one also as his trade at mge in England and on his death here in South Australia in 1892 was Shoemaker.

I also found the article on Northampton and its shoe trade very interesting  but also gave me another thing to hunt - Mr MANNFIELD's shoe factory. I am now wondering if the Mansfield middle name of my Gayton [ his mother Elizabeth's maiden name] may have possibly been MANFIELD - so easy to be transcribed wrongly with the 's' looking like an 'f' in the old writing. Hmmmph!

How can I find out, from here in the Antipodes, more info on the listing of George and Gayton as shoemakers?
Any help much appreciated. Thanks.
Julie in Adelaide SA
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