History of Clonmel

[RoryT]

Daisy Loo,
My ggggrandad emigrated to Kildare from Edinburgh in 1851 in response to an ad from the Duke of Leinster for Scots settlers to settle and his farms in the Kildare, Carlow and possibly Clonmel area also.  They set up a Scots Church in Athy, Kildare in 1856. It is possible that your ancestor might have responded to the same ad.  I have copies of the ad and also you could look up my posts in the Kildare section of this site.

If you think that this might be of interest pm me and I will forward any info that might be of interest.

RoryT

[Daisy Loo]

Rory...thanks, and I will keep you in mind.  I am not sure what bought Alexander to Clonmel, but at the moment, think it was the Royal Artillery, as he signed up for the RA in Sheffield.

I don't really know how I would prove that connection...but what an interesting piece of info for you to have!

[Mick_Dolan86]

Rory...thanks, and I will keep you in mind.  I am not sure what bought Alexander to Clonmel, but at the moment, think it was the Royal Artillery, as he signed up for the RA in Sheffield.

There was an artillery barracks in Clonmel from 1805 to 1922. From Jan 1861 to Jan 1865 3 Battery, 9 Brigade, Royal Field Artillery was stationed there. I don't have any earlier units.

[Daisy Loo]

Okay, well, I haven't yet figured out exactly what he was doing there...I have a thread going on the military board, but I need to go to TNA, to look up more papers.  Alexander was disharged from the 9th Batallion, RA in 1850.  His daughter that was born in 1849, was registered as a regimental Birth, (baptised in woolwich) and her cert shows it was the Royal Horse Artillery, 9th Batallion.  (he was a gunner & driver)

However, as a pensioner he was living in the barracks in Clonmel, for a fact, in 1864, as another daughter's civil birth shows that as his address.

Got a bid of annoying news today...I can't get my hands on a copy of Clonmel 1840-1900 Anatomy of an Irish Town by Sean O Donnell from the library.  They say it's not available

I wonder if I can get my hands on it another way 

[crystalight]

  I have been following this thread with great interest as I am trying to trace the marriage of my 3x Great Grandparents and the births of their first three children in Ireland.

I too like to collect all the social history that I can and I am wondering if the Barracks at Clonmel holds the answer.

I am sorry to butt in here, but any help would be great,

The marriage was recorded in the military records of the 77th Reg of Foot for Paris William Augustus Bradshawe
1822 -  Rank of Ensign (formally Cadet) 26 December 1822
1825 - Rank of Lieutenant 24 February 1825
1830 Marriage - 12 May 1830, Fethard, Diosese of Cashel and Emly, Munster Province, Ireland (age 24 years) to Isabella Kernahan (believed to have been born in Lisburn, Belfast but no proof)
I have been unable to find out any more about this marriage or find any record of it.

The same with the first three children

1. Anne Bradshawe was born in ? Ireland on 3rd December 1828 and was baptised in Weybridge Surrey England in 1837 with her sister Isabella (No.3) Listing the two parents above and confirming birth details.

2. Charlotte Maria Bradshawe born abt 1830/31 in Clonmel, Ireland she then disappears until 1851 when she marry's in Catsfield, Battle Sussex England - I have never been able to locate her at the time of her sisters baptisms and wonder why she was not also baptised (maybe this had already taken place in Ireland?) No records found of the birth.

3. Isabella Bradshawe was born Born 17th August 1831 and was baptised in Weybridge Surrey England in 1837 with her sister Anne (No.1) Listing the two parents above and confirming birth details.

Just hoping on the off chance someone may be able to throw some light on this family?

Not living in Ireland I have no idea how far Fethard is from Clonmel that may be a start.

Living in hope,
Crystal 

[Daisy Loo]

Hi Crystal

Whenever I have looked up Barracks at Clonmel, Fethard has come up as well.  They are not very far apart at all, and there were Barracks at Fethard too, but I don't know from what date.

The only way you would find a record for the marriage, is by finding the church record, as any kind of civil records didn't start until 1845 (for protestant marriages) and 1864 (for catholic marriages)

Have you seen this website? http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/search.php?filename=db_QUIS

I have another link somewhere on Tipperary, but can't find it at the moment, when I do< I'll post it.  Also you seem to know quite a bit about Paris William Augustus Bradshawe...do you have his military records?

Daisy Loo

[Daisy Loo]

Here's another link:

http://fethard.com/

and a sub from the above:

http://fethard.com/build/Barracks.html

https://www.fethard.com/nationalist/2005/20050122.html

And just in case you haven't already:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fethard,_County_Tipperary

[crystalight]

Thanks for those links Daisy,

I will have a look later.

I viewed the only part of his military history that I could find at the National Archives 2 years ago but for some reason they only went up to just after his marriage in Ireland.
I know from other research (Army lists etc.) that he stayed with the 77th (East Middlesex) regiment of Foot becoming Adjutant and later Major by which time he was on half pay and unattached, by 1881 he was a retired Colonel of the Army and a Military Knight of Windsor but I have fond no military records for any of this time.
I know from records of his other children's births that he spent time in the West Indies as well but cannot find the records, he appears on a census in 1870 in the US and he died in Malta so he certainly got around!

regards Crystal 

[Daisy Loo]

wow, he certainly did!  Have you posted on the military boards at all, to see if you can get any more info on records?

Good luck, though, and if I come across anything else, i will certainly pass it on to you