Reading German Parish Register

[aylene]

wow! I sent that marriage certificate to about 5 German friends and nobody could read it. I did a quick search and found them on the 1861census. Thanks Peonie !!!
I am going to follow through the Gutenberg hypothesis, and will also have a look at Wittenberg too.
I had some success with Gutenberg, I did a Google search and found the local information email address. I emailed them explaining that I am searching for info and they replied offering to help so have sent them all i know. Will keep you posted!
Aylene

[JustinL]

Well done, Peonie.

I think there is an umlaut over the vowel (the third letter) making the surname

Knögg

Justin

[Peonie]

Wish I had waited for today to read it. With Bob's edit and on my own computer (home again) it's so much easier, no squinting and crook neck. Don't like lap tops.

You are right Justin.

Regards Peonie

[aylene]

The only close match I can find in the 1861 census is Knegg. There were a Peter and Catherine Knegg (he was a leather dyer which was exactly in line) living in the right area in 1860. I can't find them after that unfortunately but I am positive that they were the ones.
Thanks again to all!
Aylene

[Berlin-Bob]

Aylene,

have you tried looking for KNECK and variations.  Depending on the area (accent), Knegg could sound like KNEK to a non-german speaking ear.


Peonie,

Wish I had waited for today to read it. With Bob's edit and on my own computer (home again) it's so much easier, no squinting and crook neck. Don't like lap tops.

In IrfanView you can also rotate images, so in such cases, even if I'm not cropping or changing, I often download the image, load it into irfanview and rotate, play with contrasts, magnify, etc.
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Bob

[carinthiangirl]

godfather:
1. Michael......
godmother:
2. Rosina....
 Müllers....(millers...)
godfather:
3. Jacob Gitzner....

[aylene]

After a couple of years work I have finally solved the mystery. The baptism was our ancester Michael Auer and he did come from Gutenberg. His mother Margarethe Auer was not married which is why he has the same surname as her. Her father is listed on the baptism, not the father of Michael. She then married and had more children.  I managed to solve the puzzle because one of the children from her marriage to Andreas Schoepfe  was godfather to 'our ' Michael Auer's daughter in London. I have his record from the Gutenberg parish book. I have been able to decipher some of it but not all. I would love some help in this if possible. I am hoping that other brothers or sisters came to London too so I can research them more.
The second question is how to find these parish records? The one for Schoepfe was sent to me by somebody researching a distant relative. Do you have to go to the Wurttemberg records in Stuttgart? I am thinking that Johan Georg Auer, father of Margarethe would have had a similar page? Did everybody have their own page?
Thanks in advance!

[Blekke]

The first page says :
Mother : Margaretha Auerin, des Johann Georg Auer, Schuhmacher von Gutenberg  :
Margaretha Auerin , the wife of Johann Auer, shoemaker in Gutenberg.

Blekke

[carinthiangirl]

left side are the "heads of household"
Hausvater (house-father):
Schöpf Andreas
below him - his parents Johann Phillip Schöpf and Anna Barbara nee Schmid
Hausmutter (house-mother):
I) 1.wife > Margarethe Auer
below her - her parents are Johann Georg Auer (can´t see Schuhmacher-occupation!) and Sophie nee Huber
the children at 2nd page right side:
she gave birth to 8 children from  1833 -1842 (1 - 8 ), 6) and 7) are twins - one of them died - also all other children with + after name),
Margarethe died at birth of 8th child on 12th Jan 1842.
ad I) left page, left corner below the note that she had Michael Auer.
II) 2.wife was:
Anna Phillipina Lange or Lenge,
below her under parents of 1st wife - her parents Jakob Lange/Lenge and Anna Katharina nee Ströhin/Kröstin?
she gave birth to 7 children from 1843 - 1853 (child 9 - 15)
ad II) left page, left corner below the note that she had 5 illigetim children from 1931 - 1941 (before her marriage with Andreas Schöpf), they all died after birth and it´s stated that the father of this illegitim children is known.

* at child 13 Anna Maria born 1850 shows her later child Sofia Maria 1877.
can´t read note at child 15 Agnes Maria.

right page 
last columne shows Tod = death
columne before that shows Verehelichung = marriage.